On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 09:14:50PM +0000, Richard Hughes wrote: > If we enabled this "mode" they'd be thousands of items, all with the > same icon. Like Mo says; it's a different app. You want a GUI > application you use gnome-software. You want a package GUI, use > gnome-packagekit. I don't think it's that easy. Sure, if you already know you want to install a specific package, just using yum/dnf is the obvious solution. When you don't know the name of the thing you want (or, even, if something like it exists at all) it gets messy, though. Say I need some program to convert weird document format X into PDFs or do some other random task. As searching and browsing available programs with yum is not a particularly pleasant activity I go for Gnome Software. Using it is a nice experience but it doesn't get me any results for my search. I think 'aww crap, no tool for me in the repos' although there are two perfectly fine command-line programs in Fedora I'd be happy to know about. People on this list might know they have to search for "packages" when there're no "applications" available. That's not true for everyone. My anecdotal experience from helping out fellow students suggests it's a common issue. They need a C compiler, bison and make to do assignments and it just doesn't show up in Ubuntu's software center (at least it didn't then, maybe they changed that). They don't know what to do and ask someone with more experience. Well, sometimes at least. The other (at least as common) option is to start googling and then paste random commands from some website into a root shell. I agree with you that dumping gigantic lists of packages on the screen isn't a solution. But just dismissing the problem as "it's for applications only" isn't that great, either. Not when most users probably think of "applications" as being the same thing as programs in general. Lars -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
