On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:46:00AM -0300, Evandro Giovanini wrote: >> I think it's great that you choose to support Fedora, but I disagree. When >> I'm doing a presentation I want my work to be featured, and I want as >> little distraction as possible. Fedora Workstation is shipping GNOME, which >> was designed following that same philosophy. It's the reason I've been a >> GNOME user for so many years and a big part of what makes it great. > > Sure, that's fine, and it should be easy to remove and get out of the way, > and as Matthias mentioned earlier, there should be a presentation mode which > ensures that nothing but your presentation is shown. > > >> "upstream doesn't put a logo" is not the full argument as it doesn't take >> into account the *why* of that decision. They didn't put a logo in the >> panel because there was no room to put a logo there under the principles >> that guided their entire design. When someone who is not a designer, was >> not involved at all in that process, and doesn't even understand what went >> into it, comes in and starts making changes as if they were just cosmetic >> details you end up with a bad design. > > I'm not trying to dictate the design. However, I am sharing a requirement; I > trust the designers to come up with a way to accommodate that need. By the > famous analogy: we need this bikeshed painted. I don't care what color, but > "the designers love the natural weathered look" doesn't help. > > >> Let's not forget that a brand is not just a logo. Being the best operating >> system with GNOME has become part of Fedora's brand, and something that has >> gained it quite a few users over recent years. Making the GNOME experience >> worse would in no way help the Fedora brand. > > I find the suggestion that showing the Fedora logo would somehow "make the > experience worse" to be deeply troubling. We should be proud and excited to > showcase it — just as we are proud and excited that Fedora Workstation is > built on great GNOME technology. The most obvious place to put a logo in is the wallpaper. I am not really buying the "we cannot do it for legal reasons" thing (IANAL though). I mean we own both the logo and the wallpaper so we could choose any license we want for it. If we really can't we could ship a branded and an unbranded one like we do with all other branded stuff. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
