On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:38:41PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:59:11AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > I understand that goal, and especially for upstream it is laudable. Clean, > > > elegant, and minimal are ideals. As a distro, though, we have to balance > > > those ideals with other goals, including promoting identity. It is important > > > to have visible Fedora branding somewhere. Help us figure out how. > > Yeah, because Fedora users definitely don't want the same clean nice desktop that > > other distributions would get. > > Honestly, I think that you're setting up a false dichotomy. There must be a > way to indicate who we are with pride, rather than considering our brand > identity something that would interfere. > > > Sarcasm aside, you're not going to win users by displaying the Fedora > > logo in places where it shouldn't be, quite the contrary. > > Find somewhere it should be, then, please. Is the login screen not a good place for this? If the user installed the system, surely they know what it is. If the user did not, they must login and could see a logo at the login screen. The Apple logo referred to earlier doesn't seem like a good comparison. This menu is used for a lot of choices that relate to the hardware and system. GNOME doesn't have a comparable menu except for the system details, which has a Fedora logo (also if you type "about" during an Overview search). -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop