On 09/19/2014 07:50 AM, drago01 wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Caolán McNamara wrote:
Because we could probably get rid of those requires if we need to. We
removed and converted a lot of stuff away from java since the time the
original requires were added, though it is convenient from the
perspective of supporting manually added extensions to know that java is
installed. I guess we're already compromised in the sense that we now
only know for sure that at least the headless variant is installed.
Yes, I think dropping the requires is a useful thing. A release note must
be added as a warning for users installing third party extensions that may
still rely on Java
Well when someone installs a third party extension and have no java
would libreoffice tell him to install java?
It depends. Typically, extensions would install just fine without any
notice (old extensions using active registration could instead cause a
rather cryptic error message and just not install at all). They would
only complain once their functionality is actually used. Depending on
how that functionality would be triggered, they'd either pop up a nice
dialog stating that no JRE is available, or e.g. in the -- probably
common -- case of triggering such functionality via a menu entry would
just silently do nothing at all. (And with the recent move to a
java-headless--only dependency, extensions bringing along their own
Java-drawn GUI will fail as badly or as gracefully as they handle a
ClassNotFoundError.)
So, it's rather the "just fail without any obvious reason" case for now,
I'd say.
If not things will just fail without an obvious reason making our
product looks bad. So I disagree on it being a useful thing. We don't
have to save every single megabyte no matter what.
And no a release notes entry is not enough.
Stephan
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