Re: Do we really need LibreOffice installed by default?

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Stephen Gallagher píše v Pá 12. 09. 2014 v 08:39 -0400:
> On 09/12/2014 08:27 AM, Donald Buchan wrote:
> > I suspect that while the technical merits of removing LO from a
> > default install have their place (ie. large image size, quicker
> > downloads, less update server load, it can be easily discovered in
> > and installed from the repos, there are popular alternatives like
> > cloud suites and alternatives, etc. etc. etc.) it's a major set of
> > packages, *for me*, and I suspect for a significant proportion of
> > users, even if a minority (in which case I concede that that would
> > be a further reason to consider its removal.)
> 
> From my perspective, the point of offering a Live Media instead of a
> pure installer is so that people can run Fedora and do something
> actually useful on it without having to clobber their existing system
> at first. (The try-before-you-buy scenario)
> 
> We really need to figure out (ideally through user testing), what are
> the tasks that people would want to do before they install Fedora to
> their local system. I'd strongly argue that the most basic set of
> tasks would be:
> 
> 1) Browse the internet
> 2) Check my email
> 3) Read/Write office documents
> 4) Use instant messaging (Google Hangouts, Facebook messenger)
> 
> For Fedora contributors, I might also add
> 4) Connect to IRC

LibreOffice was not included in the desktop spin until Fedora 19 (?) and
I remember the cries from users that one of the most used programs was
not included in the default installation.
Although I do see the technical merits of removing LibreOffice I still
think that most users consider it as a part of basic software selection
that should be pre-installed.
Any ideas how other distributions handle this? Whether Ubuntu, openSUSE,
Mageia... have LibreOffice pre-installed?

Jiri

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