----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Gallagher" <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:03:46 PM > Subject: Re: IMPORTANT (release blocker): Status of Workstation network install > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/27/2014 02:46 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 10:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Hi, folks! We did the release blocker bug review meeting today, > >> and one of the bugs that came up for discussion was this one: > >> > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1134524 > >> > >> The question of whether this bug is a release blocker comes down > >> pretty clearly to the status of the Workstation network install > >> image. That is, the image is clearly busted, so if we care about > >> that image, we should consider the bug a release blocker. > > > > I don't think the question is whether we care about the image - I > > think the question is whether we make the image available! > > > > My strong opinions here are restricted to three things: > > > > 1) If made available, the netinst image must work. Otherwise, > > we're blaming the user for our bugs. > > > > 2) What you get going through either path should be identical; > > installing from the network shouldn't put you into a > > choose-your-own-adventure path of selecting desktops and optional > > server components. > > > > This may be more aspirational for F21 than something we can achieve > > this cycle. > > > > 3) The netinst image should not look like an equal alternative to > > the "live" image (which I think is a misnomer) in the web > > presentation. Making it seem you need to decide whether you want to > > try out Fedora first or just install it is deceptive; generally, > > we want people to just go ahead and get the full image. > > > > I don't have strong opinions about whether we make the netinst > > image available at all. My vague feeling is that yes, it should be > > available, because it's more similar to a kickstarted installation > > of the workstation, which is probably useful have working and > > tested to give identical results to the live image installation. > > > > The other thing here is that without a netinstall, it becomes very > difficult for a site to do multiple deployments easily. I think we > want people to be able to write a PXE-boot installer for Workstation > and relying on the live ISO might be an impediment to that. > I agree that we need a network install of the Workstation, so lets figure out how to fix it :) Christian -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop