Adam Batkin píše v Čt 14. 08. 2014 v 23:37 -0400: > Unfortunately I wasn't able to watch Langdon's video, but I watched > Christian's talk and read Langdon's the slides. I actually spoke with > Langdon at OSCON where he accurately described me as a "developer on > Linux" which is [usually] distinctly different from a "Linux developer". > > To me, the biggest thing that I would like to see, is Gnome to be more > comfortable for a developer (that's why we're all here, right?). > Developers often spend a lot of time with their hands on the keyboard > (as opposed to the mouse) and are already comfortable installing > packages, etc... I'm sure Gnome is great for general computing users > (though we can debate that too) and maybe touchscreen users like it, but > I find it maddening. I just built a new PC though, and for the first > time in a long time I'm forcing myself to use Gnome instead of XFCE (I > tried KDE as recently as a few months ago and found it to still be > unstable and have really weird theme/UI interactions). > > I know there are some good extensions included (yay for Alt-Tab). Some > defaults to enable things like Alt+Drag to move/resize windows would be > great, as well as sane Virtual Desktop functionality, but I fixed all > that locally within a couple minutes. > > But there are a bunch of other "polish" things that I think also need to > be fixed. For example: > * There are at least half a dozen Gnome Bugzillas that I've come across > around focus and window stacking issues - and I think I've encountered > every one of them. This is maddening. For someone who uses the keyboard > as much as possible, this makes the system almost unusable > * The default theme makes it difficult to easily distinguish the Focused > window from all other windows - again, maddening when you have lots of > windows spread across multiple very high resolution monitors. Especially > with all the window focus/stacking issues > * The default theme uses a lot of extra empty space around UI controls > and also as part of window titlebars. Sure, it's pretty, but you lose a > TON of useful space. Open something like Eclipse on a Mac and compare > with Gnome and see how much extra "stuff" you can see on the Mac (hint: > Apple has found a way to make the UI both pretty AND functional even on > screens with limited vertical pixels). Oh, and when I tried another > theme that had less blank space around Window titlebars, it turned out > that some windows use some new Gnome API which draws the titlebars > differently, so those windows still look like they are using Adwaita > * Silly things like the fact that you need to drag to get rid of the > screensaver/blanker thing - Individually, this isn't *that* important, > and there's already a BZ for it, but no one seems rushing to fix it. I > can't think of a single case where a non-touchscreen user would WANT > that functionality, but there still doesn't appear to be a way to rid > yourself of it I don't know what version of GNOME you're using, but I don't have to drag anything. When I get back to my computer and want to log in to my session I just start typing and the curtain disappears. IMHO most of the point you mentioned are not objective flaws, but a matter of taste. That doesn't mean I want to undermine your effort. If that taste is shared by most users it should at least be a reason for GNOME designers to think about it. BTW I'm also a heavy keyboard user and I find GNOME by far the most keyboard friendly desktop environment I've tried in the last couple of years (I don't count all those minimalistic tiling managers). Jiri -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
