On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 06/04/2014 01:52 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> I disagree. We aren't targeting people that find virtualization to be > >> a confusing concept. Workstation is targeting developers and students > >> with a reasonable degree of technical competence. I believe working > >> virt out of the box should be installed. > > > > No, sorry, you might have misunderstood the PRD. We aren't producing a > > distro only for developers. We are still producing a general purpose OS > > but we are focusing our own development effort more on making it easier > > to use Workstation for development. > > There's nothing in what I said that precludes a general purpose OS. > On the contrary, it's required for anything above and beyond that. > > > We had this discussion already when approving the PRD. There were > > concerns that people might misunderstand the wording there to mean that > > we are no longer supporting the general desktop user. No; the PRD only > > enumerates areas we'll give special focus during development and is not > > meant to say that those are the only supported use cases. > > And this is where you and I differ. I consider virtualization an > important enough thing for the areas we're giving special focus to be > installed by default. You, apparently, do not. That's a difference > of opinion between you and I, not a fundamental misunderstanding of > the overall goal on my part. > > If you would like, we could certainly put this to a vote in the WG. I > may very well be alone in my desire for virt to work out of the box. > If we could actually get the WG to vote on it, I'll be happy to shut > up either way. I'm interested in making progress, not endless > debates. It certainly seems like it should be there by default. A common use case I see among developers is testing deployment of code or apps on other platforms. I thought this was one of the motivations behind e.g. GNOME Boxes. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
