If we are considering Gnome Classic, why not consider Cinnamon? For me it's a much for elegant and beautiful interface and still allows traditional workflow patterns and practices. I use it as my default desktop because I kept wasting time tying to re-learn how to interact with my computer when using Gnome.
I am one of the more traditional users whom prefer a normal task bar for managing my time between many different applications at once.
Cinnamon is quite mature now and has been pretty stable for me. Its honestly the only reason my coworkers and I have any Gnome software on our machines.
Earlier someone mentioned Fedora loosing users to Ubuntu because of possible fragmentation of the experience (the many different spins). Its my opinion that we are losing users to Ubuntu because Ubuntu ships a truly beautiful and efficient workspace. This comes down to using very elegant fonts (users have to fond non-free fonts to make it appealing appealing in Fedora), and shipping with an interface that is quite easy to use.
Again, I am expressing personal opinion which comes from experience which may not be directly contributing to the discussion. But being an Ambassador and fan of what Fedora stands for my heart truly wants to see it succeed so I voice my concerns as an avid user of Linux in general in hopes it may help. These are the pains that I feel when using the product and these same pains are voiced within my circle of contacts equally. We may not be the target audience (we are RHEL sysadmins mostly) where Workstation WG has stated they want to focus on developers.
On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 23:08 +0200, Elad Alfassa wrote:
> Mate is about holding back and refusing to adapt to changes. Fedora is
> about moving forward as quickly as possible. Mate is incompatible with
> that by definition, and since the "workstation" product will be the
> main product of Fedora, it makes no sense to put a desktop like Mate
> in it by default.
Personally, I think the only serious alternative to GNOME is KDE.
Choosing a minor desktop to be the default would be a great way to
become a minor distro.
Anyway, a modest proposal: I suggest installing GNOME Classic by
default. GNOME Classic is a set of GNOME Shell extensions that are
officially supported by GNOME. I don't suggest using it as the default
session like RHEL is doing, but as an alternative that users could
choose in gdm without having to install it themselves.
If you haven't tried GNOME Classic, you can give it a shot in Fedora 19
or 20 by installing the package gnome-classic-session. The experience is
roughly halfway between GNOME 3 and MATE. It feels modern, looks a lot
better than MATE, and of course has all the same features as standard
GNOME, but users who prefer a traditional GNOME 2 desktop should
hopefully feel right at home.
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