On Fri, 29.11.13 14:43, Lukáš Tinkl (ltinkl@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >Without GNOME you wouldn't have standardized IPC on Linux (I mean, > >seriously fuck it, which other general purpose OS has no sane > >standardized IPC to start with?), there wouldn't be sane device > >management, nothing. The "base OS" people of Linux couldn't get here shit > >together to get this infrastructure in place, so the GNOME guys had to > >do it instead. > > You would have, I know this FAQ is really outdated but still, there > was a DCOP IPC mechanism before DBUS got created and which KDE also > adopted later on: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#dcop > > <quote> > D-Bus is intentionally pretty similar to DCOP, and can be thought of > as a "DCOP the next generation" suitable for sharing between the > various open source desktop projects. > </quote> Well, there's actually major difference between DCOP and D-Bus. DCOP was a solution that was specifically useful for making desktop apps talk to each other. It's a domain specific solution, it was not something that would allow communication outside of the desktop session, crossing the privilege boundary. D-Bus OTOH actually was a general solution, real infrastructure of the OS, that was an upgrade to the OS itself, not just another component of an island that a desktop environment was. You can use DCOP/D-Bus as a good example to underline the point I am making: it's GNOME's success to have changed the infrastructure of the whole OS to a level that somewhat standardized IPC is now available across most of userspace. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
