----- Original Message ----- > From: "Máirín Duffy" <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:09:55 AM > Subject: Re: LISA conference, Fedora, and the sysadmin use case. > > On 11/14/2013 10:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:18:51 -0500, > > Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> - handling of many multiple terminal windows > > > > What were they looking for here? I use workspace switcher on XFCE with > > 12 or 15 workspaces and use each workspace for a standard application or > > terminal window with an ssh connection to a particular host. By being > > consistent about what is where it is easy to go to a desired application > > or terminal session. I think it's what mizmo referred to below - the gnome-shell case - it is just a sea of black boxes in the overview if you have too many open. and while i think there's definitely cases where people can just be more organized about their desktop usage or use workspaces more efficiently - there's also a case to be made for the admin who doesn't keep windows open to every host (anyone with any significant number of machines, basically), who might want to troubleshoot a handful of machines at once, etc. > > FWIW what I've observed in an unrelated usability study (one we did for > systemd that involved working with terminals) is in gnome-shell, when > you go to the overview you have a bunch of black rectangles (the > terminal thumbs) that all look the same, so the task of identifying > which black rectangle was the right one to click on to get the terminal > you needed was challenging. While it may be more of a "developer use case" than a "sysadmin use case" - I can certainly attest to the frustration of the other half of my household with the "which black rectangle" problem - his work typically involves needing numerous multiple terminal windows open simultaneously for coding, testing, tracing issues, etc. "How am I supposed to find anything?! I can't even see what is in the windows unless I click on them..." -robyn > > ~m > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop