Yes agreed, I mean if you are proficient enough to want to micromanage what software is installed with your desktop then I am sure removing the metapackage is within your skillset too. Of course the metapackage needs to stay somewhat trim here, but that is fine too as I think the new Software installer will reduce the need for stuff to be pre-installed as we can give new applications visibility in the installer as opposed to having to default install them for visibility. Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Christian Schaller" <cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:40:31 PM Subject: Re: Fedup to f20 didn't automatically pull down gnome-software On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:26:35PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 17:21:57 -0400, > >I assume it might breach some packaging policy, but why not have a 'desktop' rpm which requires all other packages we consider part of the desktop for a given release? That way when we add new applications like this we just add it as a dependency of the desktop package? > Because if it is not necessary then it causes problems for people > who want to run systems without them (perhaps to keep the disk > footprint small). We have put in temporary requires to accomplish > this, but temporary in this context is two releases since we support > (more or less) skipping one release. In that case, can't you just remove the metapackage? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop