On 02/02/2011 05:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 09:15 +0000, "JÃhann B. GuÃmundsson" wrote: >> On 02/02/2011 07:01 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Ah - if I'd've known a couple of days ago we could have changed the >>> date, but I've sent announcements out to quite a few places now so I >>> think we're locked in. The good news is we can do custom live spins for >>> the test day, so even if you can't get it done in time for the nightly >>> builds, we can fire off some custom builds. I am ridiculously tired >>> right now but I'll be in IRC tomorrow, I'll join GIMPnet so I can come >>> in the desktop channel in case you need to sync up with me. I can help >>> do some builds if that would be any use. Just let me know! Thanks. >> Have the installation issues been cleaned out? > I don't know. as Bruno said, the intention is for the testing to be > possible (almost) entirely without installation, and that should be the > case. Of course those that are using USB Flash drive can create one with persistent storage to get a closer to actual install behaviour but we loose any early Gnome Shell adopters which might shed light on some usage bugs that the test case don't cover which you only find by an actual usage. I'm pretty sure alot of bugs filed against Gnome components will be related to UI Designs decisions rather than actual code breakage by reporters for instance somehow the UI Designers forgot all about those that close the lid and leave the computer on for download or are forced to close the lid in class when the teacher or professors ask them too and then need to get immediately back on to type something down thus cant wait for suspend/resume time/breakage which is a *Design feature* as Richard mention on his blog "In GNOME 3.0, weâre defaulting to suspending the computer when the user shuts the lid, and not providing any preferences combobox to change this. This is what the UI designers for GNOME 3.0 want " I for example would file a bug against this. Another example of a potential bug or a *Design feature* is when you go to system settings --> User Account and you create a new user and are forced to choose the login name for the user from a list of user names based on the full name you enter for the user or is this an actual bug that you cannot type whatever username you like for the user? Bug vs Design battle. .. . Anyway back on track we might want to downgrade smolt since it's not working due to bug 672971 that is if smolt profile is needed ( which I expect to ) another thing was mentioned on our QA IRC from a reporter was a lack of IRC client in current Gnome Live but I think the reporter did not realize that you can do irc with empathy. Reporters have already begun jump starting the test day http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-02-03_GNOME3_Alpha#cite_note-11 and reported some early birds bugs. We also need to have any updates to current packages present as updates tomorrow and not just be on specifically composed test day LiveCD to prevent/reduce any duplication and reports of bugs that may already be fixed it's always better that reporters are testing as close to the same bits.. JBG -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
