On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 11:56 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > The real point I was tried to make was about the target audience: if we > want to make a difference with this new derived distribution we need to > have a target audience and optimize the experience for this audience > instead of the rather direction-less "catch-all-audiences" thing we've > been doing with Fedora so far. Sorry, but so far I haven't seen how dropping LVM would optimize the experience for this audience, and using your kernel compiling requirements as an argument in favour of non-technical users muddied the waters a bit. You know, it was the "no lvm/raid in livecd installer" thing in Matthias' original posting that set me off in the beginning. Granted, he might have meant "no techno-babble when doing the disk layout" instead of "always install directly into partitions" ;-). I'm fine with having a simplified method for these people to get an installation from the live media. But I don't see how not having LVM under the hood helps them. After all, at one day their disks will be full. Then they'll want to add another disk (or let it be added by someone who doesn't risk life and limb when using a screwdriver) and use that space. With LVM we can just provide the tools where they just have to say "use (this amount from) that disk for Fedora", the tools do the pvcreate, vgextend, lvextend, resize*fs dance under the hood and presto, the user is happy. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list