Re: [commops] Re: Re: Understanding how the Design Team workflow

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Hi all!

I, too, have something to say about this. There's this part in your ticket comments:

>A single repository
>
>The other idea would be to host a single repository where all the files actually live for this one. If this method were approached, it might even be possible to create a package for anyone to easily install "fedora-assets" or something >similar...

Which is exactly what I've been working on during my internship. The repository actually exists, we just need to discuss during one of our meetings on how best to organize it, so it would be used with caution. All the above comments about color usage and typographic requirements are very true.
I have been meaning to write a blog post about it for a while now, and I will.

Best regards, 
Maria Leonova

Interaction designer | PnT Portal
mashaleonova.wordpress.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "S.Kemter" <sirko.kemter@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Fedora + Community + Operations = Fedora CommOps" <commops@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Fedora Design Team" <design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 6:23:20 AM
Subject: [Design-team] Re: [commops] Re: Re: Understanding how the Design Team workflow

Hi, 

2016-06-08 3:50 GMT+07:00 Justin W. Flory < jflory7@xxxxxxxxx > : 



On 06/07/2016 08:15 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: 


Hi, 

On 06/05/2016 10:41 PM, S.Kemter wrote: 


1. Self-printed vs. printed material (first one shall have lesser colors 
to save ink as it becomes to expensive otherwise) 
2. different paper formats, letter vs DIN 
3. different bleed sizes (well for some it might work with and general 
bleed size but not for all) 
4. different colors, EMEA ICC profiled, US CMYK and APAC very funny 
there very often the printer wants to do it by them self 

For stickers it even becomes more problematic as it depends on the 
printing method. 

So what is the problem, to come with the special need, when you need it? 

These are great points. For our workflow we really need to know all of 
the things gnokii outlines above. We can't know these things ahead of 
time, which is why we ask that anyone doing a run of Fedora materials 
please contact us first so we can make sure it will come out correctly - 
it is impossible to provide ready-made things for every possible 
situation. We have a set of assets we use as a template, but their usage 
requires a designer be involved. 

Well, what is the harm in trying to DIY it? I think it could be 
instructive to walk through what can happen if you don't work with the 
design team: 

1) If you try to DIY printing something in a low-color situation, you 
may not know the appropriate ways to pull colors out of Fedora designs 
and end up with a compromised Fedora logo that doesn't adhere to our 
guidelines as well as a potentially bad-looking design since there are 
tricks you need to know about for low-color situations that you might 
not know without experience. 

2) If you print something designed for US Letter to A4, part of it is 
going to either get cut out, or the design is going to get 
stretched/squished, and you're going to have an ugly blank area on one 
side of the page. 

3) If you don't understand bleed sizes / use a document with the bleed 
set incorrectly, the design will be cropped off on all sides of the 
page, potentially some of the text getting cut off and unreadable. 

4) If you don't have the right colors set, for example you send a file 
with RGB color where CMYK is required, Fedora blue turns purple. Don't 
believe me? Check out the old Fedora 7 discs. This is how we learned the 
hard way: 

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1c/Fedora-purple.jpg 

(the blues on the right side are supposed to be the same color as the 
blues on the left side....) 

~m 


Thanks so much for this info, Sirko and Máirín! This is all great info to have. I also appreciate both of you speaking up in our meeting today as that added a lot of insight into how to best approach this topic and how we can help the Design Team with this. 

I think the approach we're going to focus on for now is looking at how this information is communicated with the Ambassadors, and look at coming up with a "standard operating procedure" of sorts for what Ambassadors should do and expect when it comes to requesting artwork assets or printed products. 

The introduction of the new roles in the Ambassador regions (Storyteller and Logistician) should be useful in helping us work on this and communicating it with Ambassadors. 

I dont think so, to be honest the ¨Logistician¨ exists already long time, he just got a name now. I cant tell here everything, we should talk about it on Flock, we have to as some things that are made (budget.next) are more problematic for some regions, without analyzing the situation/problem to much. 

br gnokii 




Thanks again for the feedback, this is helping point us in a different direction we may not have thought of otherwise. :) 


-- 
Cheers, 
Justin W. Flory 
jflory7@xxxxxxxxx 




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