Re: Fedora GRUB2 boot menu, from design perspective

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On 2012-06-20 03:40, Dan Mashal wrote:>
"Oh btw in Fedora 18 you have to go to advanced boot options to boot
an older kernel now. Yeah I know, we've been able to do this for 20
years now since the dawn of time but they think it's better for novice
users this way."

And one day I realized I am getting older. I can't pull all-nighters anymore and hack on code. My parents don't take care of me anymore, I have to make my own living, cook my own meals, and take care of my own living space. I can't have as much Hello Kitty stuff without people thinking I'm a little bit weird. I can't ride on some of the rides at Disney World anymore because I'm too big.

Life is change. Change is progress. It may be progress towards old age and an eventual death, sure, but the alternative - stasis - seems to me to be a hellish and completely undesirable alternative. How many movies and novels and other storylines have taken on the theme of a protoganist who never dies or is ageless (Twilight, haha) and whose life is miserable because they can never die, age, or change?

Change is the only way we can progress forward and innovate and make life better. By the same logic, 'we've been able to do this for 20 years now,' we would never have the television because we already had the radio. We would never have HD TV because we would have already had NTSC.

Just 1 example of many things. You can't expect Fedora to be a distro
that you can really settle and get "used to" when it's constantly
changing.

All distros are constantly changing. Compare any distro's current version to its version 4 releases ago. The entire Linux architecture is changing (for the better, I'd add), and Fedora is an upstream-loyal distro. If something is changed in how the kernel works, we are not going to fork it just to prevent change.

I know this is the whole point of the whole distro, to be "bleeding
edge" and have the latest technologies in our awesome distro.

The point of our distro is not to be bleeding edge. We are not interested in anyone bleeding or getting cut. We are interested in making the latest all of our awesome upstreams are producing available to a wider audience.

In my daily life I'm a sysadmin. Figuring out how to do something on
RHEL 5 vs RHEL 6 vs CentOS 5 vs CentOS 6 vs Fedora 13 Fedora 14 Fedora 15 Fedora 16 Fedora 17 Fedora 18 and what's different between each and
every single one is annoying in every day life at work.

If you are a sysadmin, I can understand your attitude because if you are good at what you do (and i'm sure you are) you highly prioritize managing change and minimizing it as much as possible so systems don't break and unexpected problems don't crop up so you get called up at 2 AM to fix someting. Fedora is not meant for system administrators though. Fedora is a desktop distribution and is not intended to be a server OS, most certainly not as its primary or even secondary goal.

If your preference is a distro that minimizes change, might I suggest CentOS, Goose Linux, or Scientific Linux?

"Oh yeah so dude on Fedora 17 they moved to systemd. That service
command doesn't work the same way and neither does chkconfig either
anymore. Sorry bro deal with it."

Fedora is not the only distro that adopted systemd. That is a Linux OS architecture change much wider and further upstream than Fedora is.

~m
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