On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 15:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > >>> > >>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like > >>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and > >>> keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The > >>> issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the > >>> GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution. > >> > >> Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same > >> background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default? > > > > I'll certainly talk to the OpenSuSE and Debian GNOME maintainers and try > > to make convince them to make the same choice. I'm much more likely to > > succeed in that request if I have the support of the Fedora design team > > already lined up. And I really don't think how we configure our desktop > > should be held hostage to getting Debian to do the same thing. Fedora > > should be a leader here in working well with upstream. > > With that you just invalidated your point above about "trying to provide > a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks", > all this "using the upstream" make sense *only* if everybody that > matters is doing it. The first two looks that I want to coordinate are the look of upstream - the look we are going to feature on gnome3.org when that launches. And the look of the distribution I care most about: Fedora. Hopefully that will provide a good basis to get other distributions to take take same approach, but I simply don't have a lot of influence over what Debian does. > > My proposal is is straightforward: > > > > Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default > > background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures. > > So by default I get a GDM with vertical stripes and when choosing > anything else than GNOME Shell (be it the classic panel or Xfce), the > background image will change, while if I go to use the Shell, the > background stays consistent? That's treating everything else as > second-class. Please reread what I wrote. (Note that the fallback mode of GNOME 3 which uses gnome-panel and metacity uses all the same components and configuration for background selection and display as the normal mode will have the same background.) - Owen _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team