On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: >>> >>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like >>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and >>> keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The >>> issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the >>> GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution. >> >> Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same >> background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default? > > I'll certainly talk to the OpenSuSE and Debian GNOME maintainers and try > to make convince them to make the same choice. I'm much more likely to > succeed in that request if I have the support of the Fedora design team > already lined up. And I really don't think how we configure our desktop > should be held hostage to getting Debian to do the same thing. Fedora > should be a leader here in working well with upstream. With that you just invalidated your point above about "trying to provide a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks", all this "using the upstream" make sense *only* if everybody that matters is doing it. > My proposal is is straightforward: > > Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default > background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures. So by default I get a GDM with vertical stripes and when choosing anything else than GNOME Shell (be it the classic panel or Xfce), the background image will change, while if I go to use the Shell, the background stays consistent? That's treating everything else as second-class. > While there are some mockups about how we'd like GDM to look like to > match the rest of GNOME 3 (See > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-design/plain/mockups/static/user-selector.png > ) they aren't going to be implemented in this cycle, so there's already > a visual transition between the login screen and the desktop. So we make so much noise for an incomplete desktop. It look to me like GNOME 3 is not ready enough to receive such strong promotion. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team