Re: [Design-team] Proposal

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I'll contact the them to see if i can.

On 22 April 2010 21:19, Nelson Marques <07721@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Good stuff.
Could we manage to get a Plymouth themes area ? :)

nelson

On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:03 +0300, Tareq Al Jurf wrote:
> Hi Nelson
> I think that you should see this fedora-art.org
> I sent opendesktop.org an email, and they've done it.
>
> Regards
>
> On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <07721@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>          I thought over in many things and I do recognize some
>         problems that
>         might be related to people not enrolling with communities like
>         our. I
>         would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a
>         decent
>         document, I'd rather take this approach first).
>
>          Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be
>         committed
>         to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the
>         upcoming
>         months after the release there's too much to do still. So
>         maybe the best
>         time is to trigger this around July. At that time people
>         should be
>         preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which
>         is probably
>         the main audience for this).
>          I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and
>         specially by
>         whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right
>         after such is
>         accomplished.
>
>          What I would like to do:
>
>          Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a
>         cooperation
>         protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick
>         examples:
>
>          * opendesktop.org (gnome-look.org, kde-look.org, etc);
>          * deviantart.com
>          * gnome.org and kde.org (?? this people are most likely
>         buried with
>         work already)
>          * suggestions from current artists
>
>          This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign
>         in which
>         artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As
>         things are
>         not going to be much random, this is what I though that is
>         going to be
>         needed:
>
>          #1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior.
>          #2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to
>         comply
>         (this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as
>         it's their
>         field of action/expertise).
>          #3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this
>         shouldnt be too
>         complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this).
>          #4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure
>         something I have
>         no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here
>         who have
>         done similiar things in the past, so selecting and
>         highlighting such
>         would be great).
>          #5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run
>         this as
>         Fedora or eventually also invite people from other
>         communities, such as
>         GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by
>         Fedora and
>         distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone
>         from their
>         project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds
>         between us
>         and them.
>          #6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We
>         should be
>         able to reach everyone.
>          #7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta
>         Themes, KDE
>         themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?).
>          #8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that
>         _current_
>         artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As
>         artists they
>         might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure
>         talk the
>         same language as other artists and know how to attract people
>         in a more
>         effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard
>         non-artist
>         Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running
>         such project
>         is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at).
>
>          Some doubts:
>
>          - If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or
>         not
>         community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some
>         extra stuff
>         that we get from such a campaign ?
>
>          - The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll
>         through
>         Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed
>         with a
>         friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly
>         software, such
>         as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff.
>         Should we
>         apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss
>         in the
>         submitted artwork?
>
>          - I would like submitters to place their artwork in place
>         where FAS
>         registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their
>         work, they
>         will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is
>         done, with a
>         single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling
>         list, their
>         approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done.
>         This could
>         be explored.
>
>          - Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork
>         will be for
>         sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can
>         probably
>         forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list
>         such as
>         design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them
>         directly in
>         contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This
>         should
>         probably make their possible integration in the future much
>         easier, as
>         they will start having friendly voices around.
>
>          - Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24
>         million
>         computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass
>         distribution
>         channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for
>         them to
>         participate (if we are friendly with rules).
>
>          - Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face
>         this, but
>         this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does
>         require some
>         work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I
>         can nag
>         my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my
>         free
>         time.
>
>          - Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done,
>         so some
>         feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can
>         see how we
>         can help each other. Even between the involved
>         departments/teams of
>         Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should
>         be a must.
>
>          - Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for
>         everyone
>         involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such
>         initiative... Fedora
>         Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for
>         their
>         work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number
>         and gather
>         more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams.
>         That should
>         be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or
>         artwork on the
>         release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way.
>         Break the Ice
>         between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side...
>         This is
>         will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors,
>         Marketing,
>         Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA,
>         packaging, etc. I
>         would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already
>         a great
>         win and would reward us all.
>
>          For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if
>         there is
>         interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more
>         in-depth
>         document and more objective.
>
>          I believe we can try to do something different here and try
>         to enlarge
>         our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community
>         contributions.
>
>          All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify
>         them and work
>         them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora
>         14 theme
>         selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast
>         and
>         aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected.
>
>          I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their
>         own ideas
>         on how to make better, their concerns, their critics...
>         everything...
>         only in possession of such information we can have a strong
>         basis to
>         work out soemthing like this.
>
>          From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week
>         for such
>         project and report to Marketing every single week about what
>         has been
>         achieved.
>
>
>
>          Nelson.
>
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>         Nelson Marques
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>         (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm)
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