Good stuff. Could we manage to get a Plymouth themes area ? :) nelson On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:03 +0300, Tareq Al Jurf wrote: > Hi Nelson > I think that you should see this fedora-art.org > I sent opendesktop.org an email, and they've done it. > > Regards > > On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <07721@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I thought over in many things and I do recognize some > problems that > might be related to people not enrolling with communities like > our. I > would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a > decent > document, I'd rather take this approach first). > > Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be > committed > to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the > upcoming > months after the release there's too much to do still. So > maybe the best > time is to trigger this around July. At that time people > should be > preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which > is probably > the main audience for this). > I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and > specially by > whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right > after such is > accomplished. > > What I would like to do: > > Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a > cooperation > protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick > examples: > > * opendesktop.org (gnome-look.org, kde-look.org, etc); > * deviantart.com > * gnome.org and kde.org (?? this people are most likely > buried with > work already) > * suggestions from current artists > > This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign > in which > artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As > things are > not going to be much random, this is what I though that is > going to be > needed: > > #1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior. > #2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to > comply > (this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as > it's their > field of action/expertise). > #3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this > shouldnt be too > complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this). > #4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure > something I have > no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here > who have > done similiar things in the past, so selecting and > highlighting such > would be great). > #5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run > this as > Fedora or eventually also invite people from other > communities, such as > GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by > Fedora and > distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone > from their > project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds > between us > and them. > #6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We > should be > able to reach everyone. > #7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta > Themes, KDE > themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?). > #8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that > _current_ > artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As > artists they > might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure > talk the > same language as other artists and know how to attract people > in a more > effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard > non-artist > Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running > such project > is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at). > > Some doubts: > > - If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or > not > community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some > extra stuff > that we get from such a campaign ? > > - The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll > through > Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed > with a > friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly > software, such > as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff. > Should we > apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss > in the > submitted artwork? > > - I would like submitters to place their artwork in place > where FAS > registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their > work, they > will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is > done, with a > single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling > list, their > approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done. > This could > be explored. > > - Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork > will be for > sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can > probably > forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list > such as > design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them > directly in > contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This > should > probably make their possible integration in the future much > easier, as > they will start having friendly voices around. > > - Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24 > million > computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass > distribution > channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for > them to > participate (if we are friendly with rules). > > - Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face > this, but > this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does > require some > work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I > can nag > my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my > free > time. > > - Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done, > so some > feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can > see how we > can help each other. Even between the involved > departments/teams of > Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should > be a must. > > - Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for > everyone > involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such > initiative... Fedora > Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for > their > work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number > and gather > more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams. > That should > be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or > artwork on the > release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way. > Break the Ice > between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side... > This is > will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors, > Marketing, > Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA, > packaging, etc. I > would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already > a great > win and would reward us all. > > For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if > there is > interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more > in-depth > document and more objective. > > I believe we can try to do something different here and try > to enlarge > our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community > contributions. > > All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify > them and work > them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora > 14 theme > selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast > and > aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected. > > I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their > own ideas > on how to make better, their concerns, their critics... > everything... > only in possession of such information we can have a strong > basis to > work out soemthing like this. > > From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week > for such > project and report to Marketing every single week about what > has been > achieved. > > > > Nelson. > > -- > Nelson Marques > Evil Clown > (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm) > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > > -- > Tareq Al Jurf > Fedora Ambassador > Riyadh, Saudi Arabia > taljurf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > design-team mailing list > design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- Nelson Marques Evil Clown (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm) _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
