On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:47:34AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> On 10/28/2009 08:43 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 10:59:52 Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> On 10/28/2009 11:33 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: >> >>> I think the F12 schedule worked rather well, we slipped a few times a >> >>> few days or a week and skipped most of the wallpaper refreshes -- I >> >>> think it's unnecessary to have that many wallpaper refreshes. I've tried >> >>> to keep in sync with our work the Key milestones [1] so you can compare >> >>> what we did in time and when we did it. >> >> >> >> A characteristic of this cycle was we had some *very good* designs *very >> >> early* in the process, we got complacent about them and a long period of >> >> inactivity occurred (this is why I think we missed refreshes). >> >> Then close to the Beta we tried a refreshed look and post-beta due to >> >> *some* fedback, a major and unexpected refresh occurred. >> > >> > Indeed! I totally agree with you. So we need more feedback - probably through >> > more refreshes for alpha, more communication out of design team. It's really >> > too late in time after beta (that's was one problem with F12 schedules - it >> > was bad communicated what does it mean alpha and beta for F12 - beta is now >> > practically final release, release candidate). >> >> I don't understand how we could have communicated the alpha and beta >> artwork any better than we did. We sent mails, we posted multiple blogs, >> and I even posted on identi.ca and solicited people in IRC to give feedback. >> >> It's really frustrating that folks wait until the very very last minute >> to voice their opinion. > > I thought the Design team did a great job communicating to everyone in > the F12 cycle. Be that as it may, I'll be happy to propagate the > drafts in this next cycle, to encourage more and earlier feedback > anywhere you think it's not reaching already. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ I think it goes without saying that we as people, are procrastinators. I made my comments on Mairin's blog, but I'm not unhappy with the design that has become overall. I just wish I had spoken up sooner to say I liked the beta design very much and that you shouldn't change it. I didn't though, so I only have myself to blame. I do think though, that it is possible to package up the beta design too, which might be a good compromise if people (besides myself) are interested in the older designs. Cheers, Clint _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
