On 10/28/2009 08:43 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 10:59:52 Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 10/28/2009 11:33 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: >>> I think the F12 schedule worked rather well, we slipped a few times a >>> few days or a week and skipped most of the wallpaper refreshes -- I >>> think it's unnecessary to have that many wallpaper refreshes. I've tried >>> to keep in sync with our work the Key milestones [1] so you can compare >>> what we did in time and when we did it. >> >> A characteristic of this cycle was we had some *very good* designs *very >> early* in the process, we got complacent about them and a long period of >> inactivity occurred (this is why I think we missed refreshes). >> Then close to the Beta we tried a refreshed look and post-beta due to >> *some* fedback, a major and unexpected refresh occurred. > > Indeed! I totally agree with you. So we need more feedback - probably through > more refreshes for alpha, more communication out of design team. It's really > too late in time after beta (that's was one problem with F12 schedules - it > was bad communicated what does it mean alpha and beta for F12 - beta is now > practically final release, release candidate). I don't understand how we could have communicated the alpha and beta artwork any better than we did. We sent mails, we posted multiple blogs, and I even posted on identi.ca and solicited people in IRC to give feedback. It's really frustrating that folks wait until the very very last minute to voice their opinion. ~m _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team