Le dimanche 27 mai 2007 à 00:12 -0400, Máirín Duffy a écrit : > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > [... snip ...] > > > A very crude way to assess a font is to upload it on > > http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/font/custom.htm read the glyph > > count and look at the glyph matrix. A much better indicator would be the > > language support coverage matrix DejaVu publishes with every release but > > its generator needs fontconfig sources and fonts in sfd format (IIRC) so > > it's not useful for the average artists. We really need a tester tool > > that would do the same on any on-disk ttf/otf font. > > Sweet, this is all very useful info, thank you! > > > Anyway, some result for F7 common FLOSS fonts: > > - DejaVu Sans/Serif: 4538/1939 > > - DejaVU LGC Sans/Serif: 3532/1881 And I've forgotten - Charis SIL: 3084 (but the Fedora version is out of date and includes non-unicode glyphs) - Doulos SIL: 3083 (if you don't need italic or bold) > > - Linux Libertine: 2274 > > - Gentium: 1699 > > - Liberation Sans/Serif: 668/661 > > - Vera Sans/Serif: 268 > > Cool I haven't heard of a couple of those actually (Libertine and > Gentium) so I will check them out. Gentium has a terrific reputation but is not growing very fast > Are the Luxi and Nimbus fonts FLOSS at all? Luxi - no¹, Nimbus, maybe (but they're dead wood and thoroughly lacking coverage anyway) > I was proposing to use it for titles - eg the name of the CD/DVD. And I wrote I was ok with title use in my first message > (and I was especially not proposing using only > Liberation Sans beyond the scope of this CD/DVD label design). Seriously. Then it was not so clear to me, sorry > >> How are non-technical Fedora groups making Liberation a Fedora emblem? > > > > The original RH PR release wrote about FLOSS fonts intended to replace > > [a lot of things] (when it will be finished), and many people have taken > > it as "Fedora intent is to use Liberation in all its documents *now* > > because it's the only realistic FLOSS font" > > I just re-read the Red Hat press release and I think that's a bit of a > leap you've made there. If you can point to some specific quote... That's what many people understood (just read reactions in ML archives) and it was never clarified officially. > > Current default is DejaVu LGC which is not produced by Bitstream but by > > a FLOSS project. > > DejaVu is a fork of Bitstream, is it not? Or I have completely > misunderstood? Bitstream contributions are the core of DejaVu but they've long since been dwarfed by non-Bitstream community contributions > > Also there's no possible comparison between the > > handling by GNOME of the Bitstream fonts and the handling by Red Hat of > > Liberation. > > Why? You can easily check on the GNOME page that the Vera release team did a lot of work to collect and encourage feedback, and answer common questions (that's a big reason DejaVu happened a few years later). The Liberation page does not even have contact info to send questions to. > >> Or did Bitstream do the work and then license it openly? > >> (It's a real question, I actually honestly don't know; I was pretty > >> sure the latter was the case though.) > > > > Bitstream did most of the work but the final stage saw a dialog between > > the designer and the FLOSS community (feedback, change demands, etc.). > > Vera was not just a PR release with some files to download. > > > > http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ has archived all of it. > > Have you tried to work with Red Hat on Liberation in its final stages > (as it's not complete yet) and not heard back or something? I've asked the various @rh people that have relayed Liberation-related stuff Fedora-side and never received any actual answers (more like "we don't care it's our stuff go away" reactions). ¹ http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE11.html#34 -- Nicolas Mailhot
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