Re: pahole: soliciting naming suggestion for struct btf rename

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:15 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
<arnaldo.melo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Em Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 08:37:51PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 6:01 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
> > <arnaldo.melo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Em Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:20:29AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > > > Em Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:11:56AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > > > > Em Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:47:57AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > > > > > Em Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 09:43:43PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > > > > > > happy with it. So consider this email a solicitation for naming
> > > > > > > suggestion. Keep in mind, that all the pahole's functions of the form
> > > > > > > btf__xxx will be renamed as well for consistency. If you like
> > > > > > > btf_info, let me know as well, I'll just stick with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can you try thinking if splitting this further into 'struct btf_loader',
> > > > > > 'struct btf_encoder' that would live in the pahole sources and that
> > > > > > refer to a 'struct btf' that lives in libbpf (or in libbtf, at some
> > > > > > point) is a move that eases your current needs?
> >
> > I think pahole would be simpler by using struct btf for btf_loader and
> > separate struct btf_enc (or whatever name we come up with) to encode
> > BTF during DWARF->BTF conversion. See below about mutable vs immutable
> > BTF representations. For immutable parts libbpf's struct btf should be
> > enough, though pahole is dealing also with endianness issues, so we'll
> > need to resolve that somehow.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, the btf__new() in tools/lib/bpf/btf.c is basically a variant of
> > > > > btf__new() in the pahole sources, probably we should go ahead and make
> > > > > pahole use that btf__new() and do changes in tools/lib/bpf/btf.c to
> > > > > allow for it to access internal state that it needs to do its job?
> > > >
> > > > No, we can't, because tools/lib/btf/btf.c btf__new() is centered on
> > > > getting some BTF buffer no matter where it comes from and passing it to
> > > > the kernel.
> >
> > Yes, libbpf's struct btf is immutable read-only view of .BTF section
> > that can come from either file or kernel. When I'll be adding BTF
> > writing (encoding) API, it probably will be done using something
> > similar to pahole's struct btf, that supports dynamic growth of types
>
> Ok, I noticed that libbpf's btf__new() does load things into the kernel,
> perhaps we should have it not do that and instead have some other method
> for asking it to send the data to kernel, i.e.:
>
>         struct btf *btf = btf__new();
>         int err = btf__load_to_kernel(btf, data, size);
>
> Or have multiple constructors, each specifying what it actually does,
> i.e.:
>
> To get a btf data + size and insert it into the kernel, getting its fd,
> etc:
>
>         struct btf *btf = btf__new_to_kernel(data, size);
>
> For asking for BTF info that is already in the kernel to be obtained for
> tooling to parse maps in running bpf programs:
>
>         struct btf *btf = btf__new_from_kernel(fd);
>
> And for the pahole case it would be:
>
>         struct btf *btf = btf__new_from_elf(file-with-BTF-ELF-section)
>
> that would then be used to do the encoding, etc.

We already did that a couple of days ago, that code wasn't yet
mirrored into github.com/libbpf/libbpf until yesterday (it was merged
this morning). We now have btf__new(data, size) that just constructs
in-memory BTF struct with index for types. And we have
btf__load(struct btf* btf) that can load that into kernel.

We already have equivalent of btf__new_from_kernel(fd) -- btf__get_from_id(fd).

Adding something akin to btf__new_from_elf() might be a good idea as
well, for completeness.


>
> > and strings sections. Then, once application is done constructing BTF,
> > that modifyable struct can be "sealed" into read-only struct btf.
> > Whichever way we'll go about that, there should be minimal changes to
> > pahole to be able to reuse that functionality.
>
> > > > So probably we should backtrack to my previous suggestion of having
> > > > pahole use 'struct btf_loader', or even more explicitely, 'struct
> > > > btf_elf' to make extra clear that this has nothing to do with the
> > > > kernel, its purely about loading/encoding the BTF info from/to a ELF
> > > > file.
>
> > > So, I have this in my private branch, please see if this helps get
> > > things moving forward:
>
> > Yes, this is exactly what I needed, thanks for doing this massive
> > renaming! See just one nit below about probably unintentional file
> > name change.
>
> yeah
>
> > > @@ -645,7 +636,7 @@ static int btf__write_elf(struct btf *btf)
> > >                         llvm_objcopy = "llvm-objcopy";
> > >
> > >                 /* Use objcopy to add a .BTF section */
> > > -               snprintf(tmp_fn, sizeof(tmp_fn), "%s.btf", btf->filename);
> > > +               snprintf(tmp_fn, sizeof(tmp_fn), "%s.btfe", btfe->filename);
> >
> > This is probably unintentional change, though not a problem per se.
>
> Eagle eyes, I'll fix that.

:)

>
> Thanks,
>
> - Arnaldo



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