Re: [RFC PATCH 01/12] drm: Add a new mode flag: DRM_MODE_FLAG_PREFER_ONE_SHOT

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On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Thierry Reding
<thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 08:35:58AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:34:57PM +0000, Mark Zhang wrote:
>> > I just want to make things easier. If we adding this in panel's meta
>> > data, it will be harder to make crtc gets this, since normally encoder
>> > talks with panel and crtc talks with encoder. But yes, adding this in
>> > panel's metadata makes more sense so if there is a better way to do
>> > that, I'm happy to do the changes.
>>
>> Adding something to the userspace ABI (which you've done here) because the
>> kernel-internals are designed in an awkward way right now is definitely
>> the wrong thing to do. With atomic you can easily add a bool
>> prefer_oneshot to drm_crtc_state to encode this. But I fear that with the
>> plain crtc helpers this just doesn't work properly. You could add a
>> driver-private internal in drm_display_mode->private_flags, but that might
>> clash with drivers existing use of this field.
>>
>> In any way, this is definitely not something to add to uapi headers. Hence
>> Nacked-by: me.
>
> Are there use-cases where one-shot mode is worse than continuous mode?
> I'm thinking games that run at full FPS and such. If so, exposing this
> to userspace is perhaps not a bad idea, albeit not via a mode flag. If
> userspace had a way to set the preference, it could do so depending on
> use-case.

If you have a case with jitter when the pageflips run at not-quite
60fps (just an example) then I think the kernel should cope with that
by disabling oneshot mode on its own. At least that's what i915 does.
Different story once we'll get variable refresh-rate support, but I
think that's an entirely different beast.

Also we don't need this as a mode flag, an atomic prop seems better
suited. Especially since the atomic prop avoids the mode_changed logic
of the helpers (which we want, no need to flicker when updating such a
hint), wheres anything that changes the mode will force a full modeset
by default.

Also if you expose this to userspace, you need userspace to use it
before merging.

drm_display_mode->private_flags still looks like the most suitable place.
-Daniel
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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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