Hi Andy, On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:39 AM Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 10:03:53AM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > Am 11.02.22 um 16:41 schrieb Andy Shevchenko: > > > > IMO *always* prefer a for loop over while or do-while. > > > > > > > > The for (i = 0; i < N; i++) is such a strong paradigm in C. You > > > > instantly know how many times you're going to loop, at a glance. Not so > > > > with with the alternatives, which should be used sparingly. > > > > > > while () {} _is_ a paradigm, for-loop is syntax sugar on top of it. > > > > Naw, that's not true. > > In the section 3.5 "Loops - While and For" in "The C Programming > Language" 2nd by K&R, the authors said: > > The for statement ... is equivalent to ... while..." > > They said that for is equivalent to while, and not otherwise. When I learned C, people told me to prefer while() over for() when possible, as several compilers are better at optimizing while()-loops than for()-loops. During the last 3 decades, optimizers got better, and all the bad old compilers went the way of the dodo (see also [1])... But even for a human, it's still less symbols to decode (and verify all the details about =/</>/<=/>=/++/--/...) for while (n--) { ... } than for for (i = 0; i < n; i++) { ... } [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/871283/ Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds