On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:00 PM Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am 08.02.21 um 11:11 schrieb Daniel Vetter: > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 11:03:15AM +0100, Christian König wrote: > >> Am 08.02.21 um 10:48 schrieb Daniel Vetter: > >>> On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Christian König wrote: > >>>> Am 07.02.21 um 22:50 schrieb Daniel Vetter: > >>>>> [SNIP] > >>>>>> Clarification - as far as I know there are no page fault handlers for kernel > >>>>>> mappings. And we are talking about kernel mappings here, right ? If there were > >>>>>> I could solve all those issues the same as I do for user mappings, by > >>>>>> invalidating all existing mappings in the kernel (both kmaps and ioreamps)and > >>>>>> insert dummy zero or ~0 filled page instead. > >>>>>> Also, I assume forcefully remapping the IO BAR to ~0 filled page would involve > >>>>>> ioremap API and it's not something that I think can be easily done according to > >>>>>> am answer i got to a related topic a few weeks ago > >>>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spinics.net%2Flists%2Flinux-pci%2Fmsg103396.html&data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C0ab6d16bc49443d7dd2708d8cc19f3aa%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637483759137213247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=mLqR3PoMBvOodcNJA6K6XP1AJ7hiz847y%2Bw%2BcGegSZE%3D&reserved=0 (that was the only reply > >>>>>> i got) > >>>>> mmiotrace can, but only for debug, and only on x86 platforms: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kernel.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Flatest%2Ftrace%2Fmmiotrace.html&data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C0ab6d16bc49443d7dd2708d8cc19f3aa%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637483759137213247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yjEaR73m8rjL4ARo0upHnjSAtE4yw%2BHAISWCSgmjOoY%3D&reserved=0 > >>>>> > >>>>> Should be feasible (but maybe not worth the effort) to extend this to > >>>>> support fake unplug. > >>>> Mhm, interesting idea you guys brought up here. > >>>> > >>>> We don't need a page fault for this to work, all we need to do is to insert > >>>> dummy PTEs into the kernels page table at the place where previously the > >>>> MMIO mapping has been. > >>> Simply pte trick isn't enough, because we need: > >>> - drop all writes silently > >>> - all reads return 0xff > >>> > >>> ptes can't do that themselves, we minimally need write protection and then > >>> silently proceed on each write fault without restarting the instruction. > >>> Better would be to only catch reads, but x86 doesn't do write-only pte > >>> permissions afaik. > >> You are not thinking far enough :) > >> > >> The dummy PTE is point to a dummy MMIO page which is just never used. > >> > >> That hast the exact same properties than our removed MMIO space just doesn't > >> goes bananas when a new device is MMIO mapped into that and our driver still > >> tries to write there. > > Hm, but where do we get such a "guaranteed never used" mmio page from? > > Well we have tons of unused IO space on 64bit systems these days. > > Doesn't really needs to be PCIe address space, doesn't it? That sounds very trusting to modern systems not decoding random ranges. E.g. the pci code stopped extending the host bridge windows on its own, entirely relying on the acpi provided ranges, to avoid stomping on stuff that's the but not listed anywhere. I guess if we have a range behind a pci bridge, which isn't used by any device, but decoded by the bridge, then that should be safe enough. Maybe could even have an option in upstream to do that on unplug, if a certain flag is set, or a cmdline option. -Daniel > > Christian. > > > > > It's a nifty idea indeed otherwise ... > > -Daniel > > > >> Regards, > >> Christian. > >> > >> > >>>>>>> But ugh ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Otoh validating an entire driver like amdgpu without such a trick > >>>>>>> against 0xff reads is practically impossible. So maybe you need to add > >>>>>>> this as one of the tasks here? > >>>>>> Or I could just for validation purposes return ~0 from all reg reads in the code > >>>>>> and ignore writes if drm_dev_unplugged, this could already easily validate a big > >>>>>> portion of the code flow under such scenario. > >>>>> Hm yeah if your really wrap them all, that should work too. Since > >>>>> iommappings have __iomem pointer type, as long as amdgpu is sparse > >>>>> warning free, should be doable to guarantee this. > >>>> Problem is that ~0 is not always a valid register value. > >>>> > >>>> You would need to audit every register read that it doesn't use the returned > >>>> value blindly as index or similar. That is quite a bit of work. > >>> Yeah that's the entire crux here :-/ > >>> -Daniel > -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
