On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 16:02:17 CET, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 17.02.2014 15:39, schrieb Arno Wagner: > > That this is in a c-file, not an easily changed shell- > > skript, already explains quite a bit of what is wrong > > with systemd. > > Besides the fact that this is completely off-topic: > > You could use the same argument on cryptsetup and claim that it should > be a shell script. Why isn't it? If I want 'cryptsetup luksOpen's prompt > to change, I need to change it in cryptsetup and recompile. If it was a > script, I could easily edit it. Actually, you just need to read the man-page to find out how to use cryptsetup from a shell-script and then you can do anything you like in that wrapper. It is pretty well prepared for that usage-scenario. As to why it is not a shell-script itself, doing crypto in a shell-script is pretty stupid for a number of reasons that do not require elaboration for anybody that knows the first thing about crypto. > It's *precisely* your argument. (Of course, it completely ignores that No, it is not. Not even close. See above. > the next system update would overwrite it, shell script or binary). Oh? Not in a sane update system for a shell script. Debians "file has been changed from original, (d)iff, (o)verwrite, (k)eep" (paraphrased) works pretty well for shell-scripts. It does not really work for binaries, for obvious reasons. > Really, please stop inventing weird arguments against things that you > don't use, are not interested in and don't know anything about - and > keep it on-topic. I am on-topic. There is absolutely nothing weird about my argument. Can the cheap retorics and the personal insults. They just disqualify you. > > Pity. With a sane init system, it would just be a change to > > some shell-skript, i.e. 2 minutes with a text editor. > > Until the next system update - and then you edit it again. System > maintenance like it is done in 2014! Not at all. See above. I have been modifying init-scripts for more than a decade and never had any serious issues. I can only guess you lack that kind of experience. So I your answer is "it does not work, but other ways to do that are broken too"? That is both pretty pathetic not true. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., Email: arno@xxxxxxxxxxx GnuPG: ID: CB5D9718 FP: 12D6 C03B 1B30 33BB 13CF B774 E35C 5FA1 CB5D 9718 ---- A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers. - Plato _______________________________________________ dm-crypt mailing list dm-crypt@xxxxxxxx http://www.saout.de/mailman/listinfo/dm-crypt
