Re: cryptsetup, LUKS, plausible deniability

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:04:48 -0400, test532@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> Of course. For me (if I'd be in that business) just the presence of a
>> system offering plausible deniability capabilities would be enough to
>> simply assume they are used and thus continue pressing out keys of the
>> suspect :)
>
>That is the beauty of a dm-crypt that supported even just the very elegant 
>external luks header feature that Rick mentioned. dm-crypt comes with 
>practically every linux. Therefor, having dm-crypt installed on one's system 
>means nothing. Potentially, even only with the feature that Rick came up with, 
>dm-crypt would be better at plausible deniability than TrueCrypt. This is 
>because having TrueCrypt installed on your system pretty much guarantees that 
>you have an encrypted volume. Having dm-crypt on your system means nothing. 
>Probably less than a percent of people with dm-crypt installed actually use 
>it, since at least my distro (SuSE) installs it by default.

I'd agree with you there, though even if this wasn't the case, it still
wouldn't mean anything.

Owning a kitchen knife doesn't mean you're a serial killer.

By extending his arguments, Argo seems to be arguing that having
dm-crypt included with Linux distros means that *every* Linux user may
be subject to being tortured to death, on the basis that they *must*
have something to hide, and are just being "stubborn"/"enjoy the
waterboarding"?

It's a little like taking the view that our kitchen-knife owner is a
serial killer - and the fact that he's still alive simply means we just
haven't tortured him long enough to get "the truth"?!


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