On 8/9/22 5:42 PM, Pali Rohár wrote: > On Tuesday 09 August 2022 17:36:52 Sean Anderson wrote: >> On 8/9/22 5:31 PM, Pali Rohár wrote: >> > On Tuesday 09 August 2022 16:48:23 Sean Anderson wrote: >> >> On 8/8/22 5:45 PM, Michal Suchánek wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 02:38:35PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:09:45 +0200 >> >> >> Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 03:57:55PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote: >> >> >> > > Hi Tim, >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > On 8/8/22 3:18 PM, Tim Harvey wrote: >> >> >> > > > Greetings, >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > I'm trying to understand if there is any implication of 'ethernet<n>' >> >> >> > > > aliases in Linux such as: >> >> >> > > > aliases { >> >> >> > > > ethernet0 = &eqos; >> >> >> > > > ethernet1 = &fec; >> >> >> > > > ethernet2 = &lan1; >> >> >> > > > ethernet3 = &lan2; >> >> >> > > > ethernet4 = &lan3; >> >> >> > > > ethernet5 = &lan4; >> >> >> > > > ethernet6 = &lan5; >> >> >> > > > }; >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > I know U-Boot boards that use device-tree will use these aliases to >> >> >> > > > name the devices in U-Boot such that the device with alias 'ethernet0' >> >> >> > > > becomes eth0 and alias 'ethernet1' becomes eth1 but for Linux it >> >> >> > > > appears that the naming of network devices that are embedded (ie SoC) >> >> >> > > > vs enumerated (ie pci/usb) are always based on device registration >> >> >> > > > order which for static drivers depends on Makefile linking order and >> >> >> > > > has nothing to do with device-tree. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Is there currently any way to control network device naming in Linux >> >> >> > > > other than udev? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > You can also use systemd-networkd et al. (but that is the same kind of mechanism) >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Does Linux use the ethernet<n> aliases for anything at all? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > No :l >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Maybe it's a great opportunity for porting biosdevname to DT based >> >> >> > platforms ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, biosdevname was wrong way to do things. >> >> >> Did you look at the internals, it was dumpster diving as root into BIOS. >> >> > >> >> > When it's BIOS what defines the names then you have to read them from >> >> > the BIOS. Recently it was updated to use some sysfs file or whatver. >> >> > It's not like you would use any of that code with DT, anyway. >> >> > >> >> >> Systemd-networkd does things in much more supportable manner using existing >> >> >> sysfs API's. >> >> > >> >> > Which is a dumpster of systemd code, no thanks. >> >> > >> >> > I want my device naming independent of the init system, especially if >> >> > it's systemd. >> >> >> >> Well, there's always nameif... >> >> >> >> That said, I have made [1] for people using systemd-networkd. >> >> >> >> --Sean >> >> >> >> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/24265 >> > >> > Hello! >> > >> > In some cases "label" DT property can be used also as interface name. >> > For example this property is already used by DSA kernel driver. >> > >> > I created very simple script which renames all interfaces in system to >> > their "label" DT property (if there is any defined). >> > >> > #!/bin/sh >> > for iface in `ls /sys/class/net/`; do >> > for of_node in of_node device/of_node; do >> > if test -e /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/; then >> > label=`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/label 2>/dev/null` >> > if test -n "$label" && test "$label" != "$iface"; then >> > echo "Renaming net interface $iface to $label..." >> > up=$((`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/flags 2>/dev/null || echo 1` & 0x1)) >> > if test "$up" != "0"; then >> > ip link set dev $iface down >> > fi >> > ip link set dev $iface name "$label" && iface=$label >> > if test "$up" != "0"; then >> > ip link set dev $iface up >> > fi >> > fi >> > break >> > fi >> > done >> > done >> > >> > Maybe it would be better first to use "label" and then use ethernet alias? >> > >> >> It looks like there is already precedent for using ID_NET_LABEL_ONBOARD for >> this purpose (on SMBios boards). It should be a fairly simple extension to >> add that as well. However, I didn't find any uses of this in Linux or U-Boot >> (although I did find plenty of ethernet LEDs). Do you have an example you >> could point me to? >> >> --Sean > > In linux: > $ git grep '"label"' net/dsa/dsa2.c > net/dsa/dsa2.c: const char *name = of_get_property(dn, "label", NULL); > Hm, if Linux is using the label, then do we need to rename things in userspace? --Sean