On Tuesday 09 August 2022 16:48:23 Sean Anderson wrote: > On 8/8/22 5:45 PM, Michal Suchánek wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 02:38:35PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:09:45 +0200 > >> Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 03:57:55PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote: > >> > > Hi Tim, > >> > > > >> > > On 8/8/22 3:18 PM, Tim Harvey wrote: > >> > > > Greetings, > >> > > > > >> > > > I'm trying to understand if there is any implication of 'ethernet<n>' > >> > > > aliases in Linux such as: > >> > > > aliases { > >> > > > ethernet0 = &eqos; > >> > > > ethernet1 = &fec; > >> > > > ethernet2 = &lan1; > >> > > > ethernet3 = &lan2; > >> > > > ethernet4 = &lan3; > >> > > > ethernet5 = &lan4; > >> > > > ethernet6 = &lan5; > >> > > > }; > >> > > > > >> > > > I know U-Boot boards that use device-tree will use these aliases to > >> > > > name the devices in U-Boot such that the device with alias 'ethernet0' > >> > > > becomes eth0 and alias 'ethernet1' becomes eth1 but for Linux it > >> > > > appears that the naming of network devices that are embedded (ie SoC) > >> > > > vs enumerated (ie pci/usb) are always based on device registration > >> > > > order which for static drivers depends on Makefile linking order and > >> > > > has nothing to do with device-tree. > >> > > > > >> > > > Is there currently any way to control network device naming in Linux > >> > > > other than udev? > >> > > > >> > > You can also use systemd-networkd et al. (but that is the same kind of mechanism) > >> > > > >> > > > Does Linux use the ethernet<n> aliases for anything at all? > >> > > > >> > > No :l > >> > > >> > Maybe it's a great opportunity for porting biosdevname to DT based > >> > platforms ;-) > >> > >> Sorry, biosdevname was wrong way to do things. > >> Did you look at the internals, it was dumpster diving as root into BIOS. > > > > When it's BIOS what defines the names then you have to read them from > > the BIOS. Recently it was updated to use some sysfs file or whatver. > > It's not like you would use any of that code with DT, anyway. > > > >> Systemd-networkd does things in much more supportable manner using existing > >> sysfs API's. > > > > Which is a dumpster of systemd code, no thanks. > > > > I want my device naming independent of the init system, especially if > > it's systemd. > > Well, there's always nameif... > > That said, I have made [1] for people using systemd-networkd. > > --Sean > > [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/24265 Hello! In some cases "label" DT property can be used also as interface name. For example this property is already used by DSA kernel driver. I created very simple script which renames all interfaces in system to their "label" DT property (if there is any defined). #!/bin/sh for iface in `ls /sys/class/net/`; do for of_node in of_node device/of_node; do if test -e /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/; then label=`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/label 2>/dev/null` if test -n "$label" && test "$label" != "$iface"; then echo "Renaming net interface $iface to $label..." up=$((`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/flags 2>/dev/null || echo 1` & 0x1)) if test "$up" != "0"; then ip link set dev $iface down fi ip link set dev $iface name "$label" && iface=$label if test "$up" != "0"; then ip link set dev $iface up fi fi break fi done done Maybe it would be better first to use "label" and then use ethernet alias?