On 8/8/22 5:45 PM, Michal Suchánek wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 02:38:35PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:09:45 +0200 >> Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 03:57:55PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote: >> > > Hi Tim, >> > > >> > > On 8/8/22 3:18 PM, Tim Harvey wrote: >> > > > Greetings, >> > > > >> > > > I'm trying to understand if there is any implication of 'ethernet<n>' >> > > > aliases in Linux such as: >> > > > aliases { >> > > > ethernet0 = &eqos; >> > > > ethernet1 = &fec; >> > > > ethernet2 = &lan1; >> > > > ethernet3 = &lan2; >> > > > ethernet4 = &lan3; >> > > > ethernet5 = &lan4; >> > > > ethernet6 = &lan5; >> > > > }; >> > > > >> > > > I know U-Boot boards that use device-tree will use these aliases to >> > > > name the devices in U-Boot such that the device with alias 'ethernet0' >> > > > becomes eth0 and alias 'ethernet1' becomes eth1 but for Linux it >> > > > appears that the naming of network devices that are embedded (ie SoC) >> > > > vs enumerated (ie pci/usb) are always based on device registration >> > > > order which for static drivers depends on Makefile linking order and >> > > > has nothing to do with device-tree. >> > > > >> > > > Is there currently any way to control network device naming in Linux >> > > > other than udev? >> > > >> > > You can also use systemd-networkd et al. (but that is the same kind of mechanism) >> > > >> > > > Does Linux use the ethernet<n> aliases for anything at all? >> > > >> > > No :l >> > >> > Maybe it's a great opportunity for porting biosdevname to DT based >> > platforms ;-) >> >> Sorry, biosdevname was wrong way to do things. >> Did you look at the internals, it was dumpster diving as root into BIOS. > > When it's BIOS what defines the names then you have to read them from > the BIOS. Recently it was updated to use some sysfs file or whatver. > It's not like you would use any of that code with DT, anyway. > >> Systemd-networkd does things in much more supportable manner using existing >> sysfs API's. > > Which is a dumpster of systemd code, no thanks. > > I want my device naming independent of the init system, especially if > it's systemd. Well, there's always nameif... That said, I have made [1] for people using systemd-networkd. --Sean [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/24265