On 11/09/14 17:47, Will Deacon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:16:44PM +0100, Doug Anderson wrote: >> Some 32-bit (ARMv7) systems are architected like this: >> >> * The firmware doesn't know and doesn't care about hypervisor mode and >> we don't want to add the complexity of hypervisor there. >> >> * The firmware isn't involved in SMP bringup or resume. >> >> * The ARCH timer come up with an uninitialized offset between the >> virtual and physical counters. Each core gets a different random >> offset. >> >> On systems like the above, it doesn't make sense to use the virtual >> counter. There's nobody managing the offset and each time a core goes >> down and comes back up it will get reinitialized to some other random >> value. > > You probably need to rephrase this slightly, as there *is* still a > requirement on the hypervisor/firmware (actually, two!). See below. > >> Let's add a property to the device tree to say that we shouldn't use >> the virtual timer. Firmware could potentially remove this property >> before passing the device tree to the kernel if it really wants the >> kernel to use a virtual timer. >> >> Note that it's been said that ARM64 (ARMv8) systems the firmware and >> kernel really can't be architected as described above. That means >> using the physical timer like this really only makes sense for ARMv7 >> systems. > > I'd go further: this only makes sense if you're booting in secure SVC > mode. If that's the case, what's the problem? Enter monitor mode, set SCR.NS to one, nuke CNTVOFF, revert, job done. What am I missing? M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html