Will, On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:16:44PM +0100, Doug Anderson wrote: >> Some 32-bit (ARMv7) systems are architected like this: >> >> * The firmware doesn't know and doesn't care about hypervisor mode and >> we don't want to add the complexity of hypervisor there. >> >> * The firmware isn't involved in SMP bringup or resume. >> >> * The ARCH timer come up with an uninitialized offset between the >> virtual and physical counters. Each core gets a different random >> offset. >> >> On systems like the above, it doesn't make sense to use the virtual >> counter. There's nobody managing the offset and each time a core goes >> down and comes back up it will get reinitialized to some other random >> value. > > You probably need to rephrase this slightly, as there *is* still a > requirement on the hypervisor/firmware (actually, two!). See below. Sure. I added two more bullet points. >> Let's add a property to the device tree to say that we shouldn't use >> the virtual timer. Firmware could potentially remove this property >> before passing the device tree to the kernel if it really wants the >> kernel to use a virtual timer. >> >> Note that it's been said that ARM64 (ARMv8) systems the firmware and >> kernel really can't be architected as described above. That means >> using the physical timer like this really only makes sense for ARMv7 >> systems. > > I'd go further: this only makes sense if you're booting in secure SVC > mode. OK. >> In order for this patch to do anything useful, we also need Sonny's >> patch at <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4790921/> >> >> Signed-off-by: Doug Anderson <dianders@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Signed-off-by: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> --- >> Changes in v2: >> - Add "#ifdef CONFIG_ARM" as per Will Deacon >> >> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt | 6 ++++++ >> drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 5 +++++ >> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+) >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt >> index 37b2caf..876d32b 100644 >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt >> @@ -22,6 +22,12 @@ to deliver its interrupts via SPIs. >> - always-on : a boolean property. If present, the timer is powered through an >> always-on power domain, therefore it never loses context. >> >> +** Optional properties: >> + >> +- arm,use-physical-timer : Don't ever use the virtual timer, just use the >> + physical one. Not supported for ARM64. > > I'd say `Only supported for ARM' to better match what we've done. Probably > also worth mentioning that this relies on the hypervisor/firmware having set > CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.EL1PCTEN (but assumedly made a mess of CNTVOFF > ;) if you want to boot on the non-secure side (e.g. as a guest). Note that the reset value of CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.PL1PCTEN are both 1 in my version of the ARM ARM. On the other hand CNTVOFF is documented to have an UNKNOWN reset value. If only ARM had guaranteed that CNTVOFF started out as 0 (which seems like it would have been sensible) we wouldn't be in this mess. :-/ I've adjusted the wording. Hopefully it looks good to you. -Doug -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html