Re: Device Tree Evolution Project - call notes - 29th January

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On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:44:31PM +0100, Francois Ozog wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32, Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:58 AM Mills, William <wmills@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > Can TI get on the agenda for this week's meeting?
> > >
> > > We have a simple approach to make progress on boot loader applied overlays.
> > > It is a small repo with just the overlays.
> > > It builds the dtb's from the upstream kernel repo and the overlays from this repo.
> > > We are going to do this at git.ti.com so we can make progress.
> > > However we would like to suggest this as a simple way forward to collectively host things the kernel maintainers do not want in the kernel.
> >
> > For the record, I'm in favor of hosting overlays in the kernel (of
> > course I have opinions on the details). Frank is not in favor IIRC,
> > but Frank is only maintainer of 'drivers/of/' so ultimately not his
> > decision.
> >
> > > Does it make sense to host something like this in devicetree.org github account?
> >
> > Yes, but I would like to see this coordinated with hosting
> > 'devicetree-rebasing' there. We should be able to use the same
> > makefiles from it. Perhaps the overlay repo should work as a git
> > submodule of it as well. That would help keep things in sync.
> >
> > A concern I have is what happens when someone wants to split some
> > portions of an existing dts into an overlay? Then the base dts becomes
> > incomplete. Users will have regressions from missing functionality if
> > they don't know to apply some overlay. And how do we track what base
> > DTs overlays apply to? Not that we have a solution when they are in
> > one tree, but 2 trees makes that harder.
> 
> DT lifecycle shall be selectable by the board vendor. If, for any reason
> (and there may be plenty), a vendor believes it is a better organization to
> handle the DT assembly (static + overlays) outside the kernel, then it
> should be possible to do so.
> Note: On the ACPI front, a form of overlays (needed for DT too) will
> be handled by U-Boot:
> https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2020-January/397886.html

I'll be on the next call as well, but I do want to caution against
reading too much in to what we're doing to deal with x86 / ACPI and its
different set of challenges.

-- 
Tom

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