Hi Eddie, many thanks for the references and comments; please see inline. - Gerrit | * I think service codes should be part of the sockaddr for DCCP. The decision | to make them a setsockopt() I think has made things harder. From 9/9/05: | | > I agree with Arnaldo et al. here. The Service Code should be considered | similar to a port. It is best to specify it at bind() time, rather than | separately. The structure names may want some updating; sockaddr_in_dccp and | sockaddr_in6_dccp, rather than sockaddr_dccp, for example. The servicecode | member should finish off the structure, so that sockaddr_in is a prefix of | sockaddr_in_dccp. And the code should be smart enough to supply a 0 service | code if the sa_len corresponds to sockaddr_in instead of sockaddr_in_dccp. I think the idea is good, but find the realisation problematic: * sockaddr_in{,6}_dccp would be a special API exception, TCP/UDP use sockaddr_in/6, all other sockaddr_xxx types are indexed by layer-3 name. * since servers may multiplex different services over the same port, this would mean that sockaddr_dccp contains a variable-length list - which may be at odds with the maximum length of sockaddr_storage. * would make integration with v4/v6 getaddrinfo() difficult. The glibc function getaddrinfo() does not yet support DCCP (nor UDP-Lite), but the conversion/ upgrade is in principle simple(r) if sockaddr_in/6 are used, as the basic socket API can be retained. Why not achieve the same by providing a library call which takes port number, service number, v4/v6 address as argument and returns a connected/listening socket handle? Maybe there is even potential for providing a library call for well-known services such as get_service_and_port_by_name(), but all this leads far away from what I actually was concerned about. | * I am fine with the default service code being 0. 11/23/05: | | > Again, there's always Service Code 0, which "represents the absence of a | meaningful Service Code". This should be the default, if you desperately want | a default. Yes, this is exactly what I meant to ask - if an application really has no present use for a service code, then give it the default. All other applications will have to consider the spec, RFC 4340, from which it is clear what to provide. | * I am NOT fine, and have never been fine, with 0 acting as a *wildcard* in | any way. Service code 0 acts like a specific service code in every way: if a | Request with Service Code 1 arrived at a listening socket with Service Code 0, | then the Request would be rejected with Bad Service Code. Likewise, if a | Request with SC 0 arrived at a listening socket with SC 1, the Request would | be rejected with Bad Service Code. The main concern was to simplify the socket programming API, while remaining fully conformant with RFC 4340; without implying any bad uses of default values. | So to summarize, a default SC of 0 is fine, for either listening or active | sockets, although we still think people should use real service codes. If the | following comment suggests woildcarding, then that's not fine. | | > So as to not compromise listening sockets, I was thinking of treating an | `uninitialized' 0 on a server socket different from a service code = 0 which | has been explicitly set by the application. That was my fault, the comment was a bit ill-formulated and clarified by one look at the sources - it considered safely overriding the uninitialised service code state, not wildcarding. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe dccp" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html