I was thinking that a company or other similar group who was really concerned about randomness could purchase a mobile driven by a fan and have the video from such fed to a computer (the quantizing of the video supposedly adds to the randomness). Then unique CDs could be ripped with seeds or passphrases based on this high source of entropy and distributed from said trusted source. I guess there is the question of once the source is comprimised then everyone within the distribution looses, yet another reason to leave a live WEB cam running hehe ------------------------------------------- The Fastest Browser on Earth now for FREE!! Download Opera 5 for Windows now! Get it at http://www.opera.com/download/ ------------------------------------------- Linux-crypto: cryptography in and on the Linux system Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/