Hmm... seems I might have been blinded and looking in the wrong place. I did some scripting and took a look at all the *.00000000 objects' "parent" xattrs on the pool. Nothing funky there and no files with a backtrace pointing to that deleted folder. No considerable amount of these inode object "sequences" with missing .00000000 chunk either. So, probably it's not orphan objects at this level then :| ...and then I noticed that there are quite a considerable amount of clones despite there are no snapshots - or can there be some other reason for that? # rados -p cephfs_ec22hdd_data lssnap 0 snaps # rados -p cephfs_ec22hdd_data df POOL_NAME USED OBJECTS CLONES COPIES MISSING_ON_PRIMARY UNFOUND DEGRADED RD_OPS RD WR_OPS WR USED COMPR UNDER COMPR cephfs_ec22hdd_data 179 TiB 68334318 8399291 273337272 0 0 0 707777158 86 TiB 234691728 117 TiB 0 B 0 B Is there some way to force these to get trimmed? tnx, --------------------------- Olli Rajala - Lead TD Anima Vitae Ltd. www.anima.fi --------------------------- On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 6:48 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's unfortunately more complicated than that. I don't think that > forward scrub tag gets persisted to the raw objects; it's just a > notation for you. And even if it was, it would only be on the first > object in every file — larger files would have many more objects > forward scrub doesn't touch. > > This isn't a case anybody has really built tooling for. Your best bet > is probably to live with the data leakage, or else find a time to turn > it off and run the data-scan tools. > -Greg > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:26 AM Olli Rajala <olli.rajala@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Tnx Gregory, > > > > Doesn't sound too safe then. > > > > Only reason to discover these orphans via scanning would be to delete the > > files again and I know all these files were at least one year old... so, > I > > wonder if I could somehow do something like: > > 1) do forward scrub with a custom tag > > 2) iterate over all the objects in the pool and delete all objects > without > > the tag and older than one year > > > > Is there any tooling to do such an operation? Any risks or flawed logic > > there? > > > > ...or any other ways to discover and get rid of these objects? > > > > Cheers! > > --------------------------- > > Olli Rajala - Lead TD > > Anima Vitae Ltd. > > www.anima.fi > > --------------------------- > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:41 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > The cephfs-data-scan tools are built with the expectation that they'll > > > be run offline. Some portion of them could be run without damaging the > > > live filesystem (NOT all, and I'd have to dig in to check which is > > > which), but they will detect inconsistencies that don't really exist > > > (due to updates that are committed to the journal but not fully > > > flushed out to backing objects) and so I don't think it would do any > > > good. > > > -Greg > > > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 4:33 AM Olli Rajala <olli.rajala@xxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I suspect that I have some orphan objects on a data pool after quite > > > > haphazardly evicting and removing a cache pool after deleting 17TB of > > > files > > > > from cephfs. I have forward scrubbed the mds and the filesystem is in > > > clean > > > > state. > > > > > > > > This is a production system and I'm curious if it would be safe to > > > > run cephfs-data-scan scan_extents and scan_inodes while the fs is > online? > > > > Does it help if I give a custom tag while forward scrubbing and then > > > > use --filter-tag on the backward scans? > > > > > > > > ...or is there some other way to check and cleanup orphans? > > > > > > > > tnx, > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Olli Rajala - Lead TD > > > > Anima Vitae Ltd. > > > > www.anima.fi > > > > --------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx