docker itself is not the problem, it's super nice. It's just that adm/orch is yet another deployment tool, and yet again not reliable enough. It's easy to break, and adds additional errors like you can see at my screenshot. I have a collection of them ;). We are talking about a storage, meant to store data in a reliable way. Not for days, but for years or longer. The oldest cluster we maintain runs since around ~8y by now with completely replaced hardware, filestore to bluestore migration, lot's of bugs and overall a hell of a ride. But it never lost data and that's important. However when adding complexity, you endangering that. -- Martin Verges Managing director Mobile: +49 174 9335695 E-Mail: martin.verges@xxxxxxxx Chat: https://t.me/MartinVerges croit GmbH, Freseniusstr. 31h, 81247 Munich CEO: Martin Verges - VAT-ID: DE310638492 Com. register: Amtsgericht Munich HRB 231263 Web: https://croit.io YouTube: https://goo.gl/PGE1Bx Hans van den Bogert <hansbogert@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb am Mi., 17. Nov. 2021, 23:34: > On 11/17/21 8:19 PM, Martin Verges wrote: > > There are still alternative solutions without the need for useless > > containers and added complexity. Stay away from that crap and you won't > > have a hard time. 😜 > > I don't have a problem with the containers *at all*. And with me > probably a lot of users. But those who don't see the problem are silent > in this thread. > > I love cephadm, finally spinning up a cluster and doing upgrades has > become a lot less tedious. > > A positive sound was in due order here. > > Signing out again! > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx