The output from ceph osd pool ls detail tell me nothing, except that the
pgp_num is not where it should be. Can you help me to read the output? How
do I estimate how long the split will take?
[root@s3db1 ~]# ceph status
cluster:
id: dca79fff-ffd0-58f4-1cff-82a2feea05f4
health: HEALTH_WARN
noscrub,nodeep-scrub flag(s) set
10 backfillfull osd(s)
19 nearfull osd(s)
37 pool(s) backfillfull
BlueFS spillover detected on 1 OSD(s)
13 large omap objects
Low space hindering backfill (add storage if this doesn't
resolve itself): 234 pgs backfill_toofull
...
data:
pools: 37 pools, 4032 pgs
objects: 121.40M objects, 199 TiB
usage: 627 TiB used, 169 TiB / 795 TiB avail
pgs: 45263471/364213596 objects misplaced (12.428%)
3719 active+clean
209 active+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull
59 active+remapped+backfill_wait
24 active+remapped+backfill_toofull
20 active+remapped+backfilling
1 active+remapped+forced_backfill+backfill_toofull
io:
client: 8.4 MiB/s rd, 127 MiB/s wr, 208 op/s rd, 163 op/s wr
recovery: 276 MiB/s, 164 objects/s
[root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd pool ls detail
...
pool 10 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.index' replicated size 3 min_size 1
crush_rule 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 64 pgp_num 64 autoscale_mode warn
last_change 320966 lfor 0/193276/306366 flags hashpspool,backfillfull
stripe_width 0 application rgw
pool 11 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data' replicated size 3 min_size 2
crush_rule 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 2048 pgp_num 1946 pgp_num_target
2048 autoscale_mode warn last_change 320966 lfor 0/263549/317774 flags
hashpspool,backfillfull stripe_width 0 application rgw
...
Am Di., 30. März 2021 um 15:07 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> It would be safe to turn off the balancer, yes go ahead.
>
> To know if adding more hardware will help, we need to see how much
> longer this current splitting should take. This will help:
>
> ceph status
> ceph osd pool ls detail
>
> -- dan
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:00 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I would think due to splitting, because the balancer doesn't refuses
> it's work, because to many misplaced objects.
> > I also think to turn it off for now, so it doesn't begin it's work at 5%
> missplaced objects.
> >
> > Would adding more hardware help? We wanted to insert another OSD node
> with 7x8TB disks anyway, but postponed it due to the rebalancing.
> >
> > Am Di., 30. März 2021 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> Are those PGs backfilling due to splitting or due to balancing?
> >> If it's the former, I don't think there's a way to pause them with
> >> upmap or any other trick.
> >>
> >> -- dan
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:07 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > One week later the ceph is still balancing.
> >> > What worries me like hell is the %USE on a lot of those OSDs. Does
> ceph
> >> > resolv this on it's own? We are currently down to 5TB space in the
> cluster.
> >> > Rebalancing single OSDs doesn't work well and it increases the
> "missplaced
> >> > objects".
> >> >
> >> > I thought about letting upmap do some rebalancing. Anyone know if
> this is a
> >> > good idea? Or if I should bite my nails an wait as I am the headache
> of my
> >> > life.
> >> > [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd getmap -o om; osdmaptool om --upmap out.txt
> >> > --upmap-pool eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data --upmap-max 10; cat out.txt
> >> > got osdmap epoch 321975
> >> > osdmaptool: osdmap file 'om'
> >> > writing upmap command output to: out.txt
> >> > checking for upmap cleanups
> >> > upmap, max-count 10, max deviation 5
> >> > limiting to pools eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data ([11])
> >> > pools eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data
> >> > prepared 10/10 changes
> >> > ceph osd rm-pg-upmap-items 11.209
> >> > ceph osd rm-pg-upmap-items 11.253
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.7f 79 88
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.fc 53 31 105 78
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.1d8 84 50
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.47f 94 86
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.49c 44 71
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.553 74 50
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.6c3 66 63
> >> > ceph osd pg-upmap-items 11.7ad 43 50
> >> >
> >> > ID CLASS WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE RAW USE DATA OMAP META
> >> > AVAIL %USE VAR PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
> >> > -1 795.42548 - 795 TiB 626 TiB 587 TiB 82 GiB 1.4
> TiB 170
> >> > TiB 78.64 1.00 - root default
> >> > 56 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.4 TiB 6.4 TiB 684 MiB 16
> GiB 910
> >> > GiB 87.87 1.12 129 up osd.56
> >> > 67 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.4 TiB 6.4 TiB 582 MiB 16
> GiB 865
> >> > GiB 88.40 1.12 115 up osd.67
> >> > 79 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.2 TiB 432 GiB 1.9 GiB 0
> B 432
> >> > GiB 88.40 1.12 63 up osd.79
> >> > 53 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.5 TiB 6.4 TiB 971 MiB 22
> GiB 864
> >> > GiB 88.48 1.13 114 up osd.53
> >> > 51 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.5 TiB 6.4 TiB 734 MiB 15
> GiB 837
> >> > GiB 88.77 1.13 120 up osd.51
> >> > 73 hdd 14.55269 1.00000 15 TiB 13 TiB 13 TiB 1.8 GiB 39
> GiB 1.6
> >> > TiB 88.97 1.13 246 up osd.73
> >> > 55 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.5 TiB 6.5 TiB 259 MiB 15
> GiB 825
> >> > GiB 89.01 1.13 118 up osd.55
> >> > 70 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.5 TiB 6.5 TiB 291 MiB 16
> GiB 787
> >> > GiB 89.44 1.14 119 up osd.70
> >> > 42 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.4 TiB 3.3 TiB 685 MiB 8.2
> GiB 374
> >> > GiB 90.23 1.15 60 up osd.42
> >> > 94 hdd 3.63869 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.3 TiB 3.3 TiB 132 MiB 7.7
> GiB 345
> >> > GiB 90.75 1.15 64 up osd.94
> >> > 25 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.4 TiB 3.3 TiB 3.2 MiB 8.1
> GiB 352
> >> > GiB 90.79 1.15 53 up osd.25
> >> > 31 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.7 TiB 6.6 TiB 223 MiB 15
> GiB 690
> >> > GiB 90.80 1.15 117 up osd.31
> >> > 84 hdd 7.52150 1.00000 7.5 TiB 6.8 TiB 6.6 TiB 159 MiB 16
> GiB 699
> >> > GiB 90.93 1.16 121 up osd.84
> >> > 82 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.3 TiB 332 GiB 1.0 GiB 0
> B 332
> >> > GiB 91.08 1.16 59 up osd.82
> >> > 89 hdd 7.52150 1.00000 7.5 TiB 6.9 TiB 6.6 TiB 400 MiB 15
> GiB 670
> >> > GiB 91.29 1.16 126 up osd.89
> >> > 33 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.4 TiB 3.3 TiB 382 MiB 8.6
> GiB 327
> >> > GiB 91.46 1.16 66 up osd.33
> >> > 90 hdd 7.52150 1.00000 7.5 TiB 6.9 TiB 6.6 TiB 338 MiB 15
> GiB 658
> >> > GiB 91.46 1.16 112 up osd.90
> >> > 105 hdd 3.63869 0.89999 3.6 TiB 3.3 TiB 3.3 TiB 206 MiB 8.1
> GiB 301
> >> > GiB 91.91 1.17 56 up osd.105
> >> > 66 hdd 7.27739 0.95000 7.3 TiB 6.7 TiB 6.7 TiB 322 MiB 16
> GiB 548
> >> > GiB 92.64 1.18 121 up osd.66
> >> > 46 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.8 TiB 6.7 TiB 316 MiB 16
> GiB 536
> >> > GiB 92.81 1.18 119 up osd.46
> >> >
> >> > Am Di., 23. März 2021 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb Boris Behrens <
> bb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >
> >> > > Good point. Thanks for the hint. I changed it for all OSDs from 5
> to 1
> >> > > *crossing finger*
> >> > >
> >> > > Am Di., 23. März 2021 um 19:45 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> >> > > dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I see. When splitting PGs, the OSDs will increase is used space
> >> > >> temporarily to make room for the new PGs.
> >> > >> When going from 1024->2048 PGs, that means that half of the
> objects from
> >> > >> each PG will be copied to a new PG, and then the previous PGs will
> have
> >> > >> those objects deleted.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Make sure osd_max_backfills is set to 1, so that not too many PGs
> are
> >> > >> moving concurrently.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 7:39 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Thank you.
> >> > >>> Currently I do not have any full OSDs (all <90%) but I keep this
> in mind.
> >> > >>> What worries me is the ever increasing %USE metric (it went up
> from
> >> > >>> around 72% to 75% in three hours). It looks like there is comming
> a lot of
> >> > >>> data (there comes barely new data at the moment), but I think
> this might
> >> > >>> have to do with my "let's try to increase the PGs to 2048". I
> hope that
> >> > >>> ceph begins to split the old PGs into new ones and removes the
> old PGs.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> ID CLASS WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE RAW USE DATA OMAP META
> >> > >>> AVAIL %USE VAR PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
> >> > >>> -1 795.42548 - 795 TiB 597 TiB 556 TiB 88 GiB 1.4
> TiB
> >> > >>> 198 TiB 75.12 1.00 - root default
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Am Di., 23. März 2021 um 19:21 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> >> > >>> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> While you're watching things, if an OSD is getting too close for
> >> > >>>> comfort to the full ratio, you can temporarily increase it, e.g.
> >> > >>>> ceph osd set-full-ratio 0.96
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> But don't set that too high -- you can really break an OSD if it
> gets
> >> > >>>> 100% full (and then can't delete objects or whatever...)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> -- dan
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 7:17 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Ok, then I will try to reweight the most filled OSDs to .95
> and see
> >> > >>>> if this helps.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Am Di., 23. März 2021 um 19:13 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> >> > >>>> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Data goes to *all* PGs uniformly.
> >> > >>>> >> Max_avail is limited by the available space on the most full
> OSD --
> >> > >>>> >> you should pay close attention to those and make sure they
> are moving
> >> > >>>> >> in the right direction (decreasing!)
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> Another point -- IMHO you should aim to get all PGs
> active+clean
> >> > >>>> >> before you add yet another batch of new disks. While there
> are PGs
> >> > >>>> >> backfilling, your osdmaps are accumulating on the mons and
> osds --
> >> > >>>> >> this itself will start to use a lot of space, and
> active+clean is the
> >> > >>>> >> only way to trim the old maps.
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> -- dan
> >> > >>>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 7:05 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> > So,
> >> > >>>> >> > doing nothing and wait for the ceph to recover?
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> > In theory there should be enough disk space (more disks
> arriving
> >> > >>>> tomorrow), but I fear that there might be an issue, when the
> backups get
> >> > >>>> exported over night to this s3. Currently the max_avail lingers
> around 13TB
> >> > >>>> and I hope, that the data will go to other PGs than the ones
> that are
> >> > >>>> currently on filled OSDs.
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> > Am Di., 23. März 2021 um 18:58 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster
> <
> >> > >>>> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> backfill_toofull is not a bad thing when the cluster is
> really
> >> > >>>> full
> >> > >>>> >> >> like yours. You should expect some of the most full OSDs to
> >> > >>>> eventually
> >> > >>>> >> >> start decreasing in usage, as the PGs are moved to the new
> OSDs.
> >> > >>>> Those
> >> > >>>> >> >> backfill_toofull states should then resolve themselves as
> the OSD
> >> > >>>> >> >> usage flattens out.
> >> > >>>> >> >> Keep an eye on the usage of the backfill_full and nearfull
> OSDs
> >> > >>>> though
> >> > >>>> >> >> -- if they do eventually go above the full_ratio (95% by
> default),
> >> > >>>> >> >> then writes to those OSDs would stop.
> >> > >>>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> But if on the other hand you're suffering from lots of
> slow ops or
> >> > >>>> >> >> anything else visible to your users, then you could try to
> take
> >> > >>>> some
> >> > >>>> >> >> actions to slow down the rebalancing. Just let us know if
> that's
> >> > >>>> the
> >> > >>>> >> >> case and we can see about changing osd_max_backfills, some
> >> > >>>> weights or
> >> > >>>> >> >> maybe using the upmap-remapped tool.
> >> > >>>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> -- Dan
> >> > >>>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 6:07 PM Boris Behrens <
> bb@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Ok, I should have listened to you :)
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > In the last week we added more storage but the issue got
> worse
> >> > >>>> instead.
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Today I realized that the PGs were up to 90GB (bytes
> column in
> >> > >>>> ceph pg ls said 95705749636), and the balance kept mentioning
> the 2048 PGs
> >> > >>>> for this pool. We were at 72% utilization (ceph osd df tree,
> first line)
> >> > >>>> for our cluster and I increased the PGs to 2048.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Now I am in a world of trouble.
> >> > >>>> >> >> > The space in the cluster went down, I am at 45% misplaced
> >> > >>>> objects, and we already added 20x4TB disks just to not go down
> completly.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > The utilization is still going up and the overall free
> space in
> >> > >>>> the cluster seems to go down. This is what my ceph status looks
> like and
> >> > >>>> now I really need help to get that thing back to normal:
> >> > >>>> >> >> > [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph status
> >> > >>>> >> >> > cluster:
> >> > >>>> >> >> > id: dca79fff-ffd0-58f4-1cff-82a2feea05f4
> >> > >>>> >> >> > health: HEALTH_WARN
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 4 backfillfull osd(s)
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 17 nearfull osd(s)
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 37 pool(s) backfillfull
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 13 large omap objects
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Low space hindering backfill (add storage if
> this
> >> > >>>> doesn't resolve itself): 570 pgs backfill_toofull
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > services:
> >> > >>>> >> >> > mon: 3 daemons, quorum
> >> > >>>> ceph-s3-mon1,ceph-s3-mon2,ceph-s3-mon3 (age 44m)
> >> > >>>> >> >> > mgr: ceph-mgr2(active, since 15m), standbys:
> ceph-mgr3,
> >> > >>>> ceph-mgr1
> >> > >>>> >> >> > mds: 3 up:standby
> >> > >>>> >> >> > osd: 110 osds: 110 up (since 28m), 110 in (since
> 28m); 1535
> >> > >>>> remapped pgs
> >> > >>>> >> >> > rgw: 3 daemons active (eu-central-1, eu-msg-1,
> eu-secure-1)
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > task status:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > data:
> >> > >>>> >> >> > pools: 37 pools, 4032 pgs
> >> > >>>> >> >> > objects: 116.23M objects, 182 TiB
> >> > >>>> >> >> > usage: 589 TiB used, 206 TiB / 795 TiB avail
> >> > >>>> >> >> > pgs: 160918554/348689415 objects misplaced
> (46.150%)
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 2497 active+clean
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 779 active+remapped+backfill_wait
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 538
> active+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 186 active+remapped+backfilling
> >> > >>>> >> >> > 32 active+remapped+backfill_toofull
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > io:
> >> > >>>> >> >> > client: 27 MiB/s rd, 69 MiB/s wr, 497 op/s rd, 153
> op/s wr
> >> > >>>> >> >> > recovery: 1.5 GiB/s, 922 objects/s
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Am Di., 16. März 2021 um 09:34 Uhr schrieb Boris Behrens
> <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Hi Dan,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> my EC profile look very "default" to me.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd erasure-code-profile ls
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> default
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd erasure-code-profile get
> default
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> k=2
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> m=1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> plugin=jerasure
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> technique=reed_sol_van
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> I don't understand the ouput, but the balancing get
> worse over
> >> > >>>> night:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> [root@s3db1 ~]#
> ceph-scripts/tools/ceph-pool-pg-distribution
> >> > >>>> 11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Searching for PGs in pools: ['11']
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Summary: 1024 PGs on 84 osds
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Num OSDs with X PGs:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 15: 8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 16: 7
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 17: 6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 18: 10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 19: 1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 32: 10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 33: 4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 34: 6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 35: 8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 65: 5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 66: 5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 67: 4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 68: 10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph-scripts/tools/ceph-pg-histogram
> >> > >>>> --normalize --pool=11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> # NumSamples = 84; Min = 4.12; Max = 5.09
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> # Mean = 4.553355; Variance = 0.052415; SD = 0.228942;
> Median
> >> > >>>> 4.561608
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> # each ∎ represents a count of 1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.1244 - 4.2205 [ 8]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.2205 - 4.3166 [ 6]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.3166 - 4.4127 [ 11]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.4127 - 4.5087 [ 10]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.5087 - 4.6048 [ 11]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.6048 - 4.7009 [ 19]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.7009 - 4.7970 [ 6]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.7970 - 4.8931 [ 8]: ∎∎∎∎∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.8931 - 4.9892 [ 4]: ∎∎∎∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4.9892 - 5.0852 [ 1]: ∎
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd df tree | sort -nk 17 | tail
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 14 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 724 GiB
> 19 GiB
> >> > >>>> 0 B 724 GiB 80.56 1.07 56 up osd.14
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 19 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 2.9 TiB
> 466 MiB
> >> > >>>> 7.9 GiB 708 GiB 81.25 1.08 53 up osd.19
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 4 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.0 TiB 698 GiB
> 703 MiB
> >> > >>>> 0 B 698 GiB 81.27 1.08 48 up osd.4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 24 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.0 TiB 695 GiB
> 640 MiB
> >> > >>>> 0 B 695 GiB 81.34 1.08 46 up osd.24
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 75 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 2.9 TiB
> 440 MiB
> >> > >>>> 8.1 GiB 704 GiB 81.35 1.08 48 up osd.75
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 71 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 3.0 TiB
> 7.5 MiB
> >> > >>>> 8.0 GiB 663 GiB 82.44 1.09 47 up osd.71
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 76 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0 TiB
> 251 MiB
> >> > >>>> 9.0 GiB 617 GiB 83.65 1.11 50 up osd.76
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 33 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0 TiB
> 399 MiB
> >> > >>>> 8.1 GiB 618 GiB 83.85 1.11 55 up osd.33
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 35 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0 TiB
> 317 MiB
> >> > >>>> 8.8 GiB 617 GiB 83.87 1.11 50 up osd.35
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> 34 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.2 TiB 3.1 TiB
> 451 MiB
> >> > >>>> 8.7 GiB 545 GiB 85.75 1.14 54 up osd.34
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Dan van der
> Ster <
> >> > >>>> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> How wide are your EC profiles? If they are really
> wide, you
> >> > >>>> might be
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> reaching the limits of what is physically possible.
> Also, I'm
> >> > >>>> not sure
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> that upmap in 14.2.11 is very smart about *improving*
> >> > >>>> existing upmap
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> rules for a given PG, in the case that a PG already
> has an
> >> > >>>> upmap-items
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> entry but it would help the distribution to add more
> mapping
> >> > >>>> pairs to
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> that entry. What this means, is that it might
> sometimes be
> >> > >>>> useful to
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> randomly remove some upmap entries and see if the
> balancer
> >> > >>>> does a
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> better job when it replaces them.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> But before you do that, I re-remembered that looking
> at the
> >> > >>>> total PG
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> numbers is not useful -- you need to check the PGs per
> OSD
> >> > >>>> for the
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data pool only.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> We have a couple tools that can help with this:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> 1. To see the PGs per OSD for a given pool:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>>
> https://github.com/cernceph/ceph-scripts/blob/master/tools/ceph-pool-pg-distribution
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> E.g.: ./ceph-pool-pg-distribution 11 # to see the
> >> > >>>> distribution of
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> your eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data pool.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> The output looks like this on my well balanced
> clusters:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> # ceph-scripts/tools/ceph-pool-pg-distribution 15
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> Searching for PGs in pools: ['15']
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> Summary: 256 pgs on 56 osds
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> Num OSDs with X PGs:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> 13: 16
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> 14: 40
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> You should expect a trimodal for your cluster.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> 2. You can also use another script from that repo to
> see the
> >> > >>>> PGs per
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> OSD normalized to crush weight:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> ceph-scripts/tools/ceph-pg-histogram --normalize
> --pool=15
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> This might explain what is going wrong.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> Cheers, Dan
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:04 PM Boris Behrens <
> bb@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > Absolutly:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd df tree
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > ID CLASS WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE RAW USE DATA
> OMAP
> >> > >>>> META AVAIL %USE VAR PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -1 673.54224 - 674 TiB 496 TiB 468
> TiB 97
> >> > >>>> GiB 1.2 TiB 177 TiB 73.67 1.00 - root default
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -2 58.30331 - 58 TiB 42 TiB 38
> TiB 9.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 99 GiB 16 TiB 72.88 0.99 - host s3db1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 23 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 714
> >> > >>>> MiB 25 GiB 3.7 TiB 74.87 1.02 194 up osd.23
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 69 hdd 14.55269 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.6
> >> > >>>> GiB 40 GiB 3.4 TiB 76.32 1.04 199 up osd.69
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 73 hdd 14.55269 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.3
> >> > >>>> GiB 34 GiB 3.8 TiB 74.15 1.01 203 up osd.73
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 79 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB 1.3
> TiB 1.8
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 65.44 0.89 47 up osd.79
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 80 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB 1.3
> TiB 2.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 65.34 0.89 48 up osd.80
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 81 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB 1.3
> TiB 1.1
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 65.38 0.89 47 up osd.81
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 82 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.5 TiB 1.1
> TiB 619
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1.1 TiB 68.46 0.93 41 up osd.82
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -11 50.94173 - 51 TiB 37 TiB 37
> TiB 3.5
> >> > >>>> GiB 98 GiB 14 TiB 71.90 0.98 - host s3db10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 63 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 5.3
> TiB 647
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.0 TiB 72.72 0.99 94 up osd.63
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 64 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 5.2
> TiB 668
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.0 TiB 72.23 0.98 93 up osd.64
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 65 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 227
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.16 0.97 100 up osd.65
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 66 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB 5.4
> TiB 313
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.9 TiB 74.25 1.01 92 up osd.66
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 67 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1
> TiB 584
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.1 TiB 70.63 0.96 96 up osd.67
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 68 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 720
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.72 0.97 101 up osd.68
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 70 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1
> TiB 425
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.1 TiB 70.59 0.96 97 up osd.70
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -12 50.99052 - 51 TiB 38 TiB 37
> TiB 2.1
> >> > >>>> GiB 97 GiB 13 TiB 73.77 1.00 - host s3db11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 46 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.6
> TiB 229
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.7 TiB 77.05 1.05 97 up osd.46
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 47 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1
> TiB 159
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.2 TiB 70.00 0.95 89 up osd.47
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 48 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 279
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.82 0.97 98 up osd.48
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 49 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.4
> TiB 276
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.8 TiB 74.90 1.02 95 up osd.49
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 50 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 336
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 2.0 TiB 72.13 0.98 93 up osd.50
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 51 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.6
> TiB 728
> >> > >>>> MiB 15 GiB 1.6 TiB 77.76 1.06 98 up osd.51
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 72 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 5.3
> TiB 147
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.0 TiB 72.75 0.99 95 up osd.72
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -37 58.55478 - 59 TiB 44 TiB 44
> TiB 4.4
> >> > >>>> GiB 122 GiB 15 TiB 75.20 1.02 - host s3db12
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 19 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB 2.9
> TiB 454
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.2 GiB 780 GiB 79.35 1.08 53 up osd.19
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 71 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 2.9
> TiB 7.1
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.0 GiB 734 GiB 80.56 1.09 47 up osd.71
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 75 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB 2.9
> TiB 439
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.2 GiB 777 GiB 79.43 1.08 48 up osd.75
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 76 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 3.0
> TiB 241
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.9 GiB 688 GiB 81.77 1.11 50 up osd.76
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 77 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 880
> >> > >>>> MiB 30 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.44 1.02 201 up osd.77
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 78 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 10 TiB 10
> TiB 1015
> >> > >>>> MiB 28 GiB 4.2 TiB 71.26 0.97 193 up osd.78
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 83 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.4
> >> > >>>> GiB 30 GiB 3.8 TiB 73.76 1.00 203 up osd.83
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -3 58.49872 - 58 TiB 42 TiB 36
> TiB 8.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 89 GiB 17 TiB 71.71 0.97 - host s3db2
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 1 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 3.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 37 GiB 3.7 TiB 74.58 1.01 196 up osd.1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 3 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB 1.3
> TiB 566
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 64.11 0.87 50 up osd.3
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 4 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 771
> GiB 695
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 771 GiB 79.30 1.08 48 up osd.4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 5 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB 1.2
> TiB 482
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1.2 TiB 66.51 0.90 49 up osd.5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 6 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB 1.3
> TiB 1.8
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 64.00 0.87 42 up osd.6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 7 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 639
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.44 0.98 192 up osd.7
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 74 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 10 TiB 10
> TiB 907
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 4.2 TiB 71.32 0.97 193 up osd.74
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -4 58.49872 - 58 TiB 43 TiB 36
> TiB 34
> >> > >>>> GiB 85 GiB 16 TiB 72.69 0.99 - host s3db3
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 2 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 980
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 3.8 TiB 74.36 1.01 203 up osd.2
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 9 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 8.4
> >> > >>>> GiB 33 GiB 3.9 TiB 73.51 1.00 186 up osd.9
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 10 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 10 TiB 10
> TiB 650
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 4.2 TiB 71.64 0.97 201 up osd.10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 12 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB 1.3
> TiB 754
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 64.17 0.87 44 up osd.12
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 13 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.8 TiB 813
> GiB 2.4
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 813 GiB 78.17 1.06 58 up osd.13
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 14 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 797
> GiB 19
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 797 GiB 78.60 1.07 56 up osd.14
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 15 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB 1.3
> TiB 2.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 63.96 0.87 41 up osd.15
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -5 58.49872 - 58 TiB 43 TiB 36
> TiB 6.7
> >> > >>>> GiB 97 GiB 15 TiB 74.04 1.01 - host s3db4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 11 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 940
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.49 0.98 196 up osd.11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 17 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1022
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.23 1.02 204 up osd.17
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 18 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 945
> >> > >>>> MiB 45 GiB 3.8 TiB 74.16 1.01 193 up osd.18
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 20 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1020
> GiB 596
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1020 GiB 72.62 0.99 57 up osd.20
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 21 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1023
> GiB 1.9
> >> > >>>> GiB 0 B 1023 GiB 72.54 0.98 41 up osd.21
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 22 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1023
> GiB 797
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 1023 GiB 72.54 0.98 53 up osd.22
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 24 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 766
> GiB 618
> >> > >>>> MiB 0 B 766 GiB 79.42 1.08 46 up osd.24
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -6 58.89636 - 59 TiB 43 TiB 43
> TiB 3.0
> >> > >>>> GiB 108 GiB 16 TiB 73.40 1.00 - host s3db5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 0 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB 2.6
> TiB 92
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.2 GiB 1.1 TiB 71.16 0.97 45 up osd.0
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 25 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB 2.6
> TiB 2.4
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.3 GiB 1.1 TiB 71.23 0.97 41 up osd.25
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 26 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB 2.7
> TiB 181
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.6 GiB 935 GiB 75.57 1.03 45 up osd.26
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 27 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB 2.6
> TiB 5.1
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.0 GiB 1.1 TiB 71.20 0.97 47 up osd.27
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 28 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 977
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 3.8 TiB 73.85 1.00 197 up osd.28
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 29 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 10
> TiB 872
> >> > >>>> MiB 26 GiB 4.1 TiB 71.98 0.98 196 up osd.29
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 30 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 943
> >> > >>>> MiB 27 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.51 1.03 202 up osd.30
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -7 58.89636 - 59 TiB 44 TiB 43
> TiB 13
> >> > >>>> GiB 122 GiB 15 TiB 74.97 1.02 - host s3db6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 32 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB 2.7
> TiB 27
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.6 GiB 940 GiB 75.42 1.02 55 up osd.32
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 33 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0
> TiB 376
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.2 GiB 691 GiB 81.94 1.11 55 up osd.33
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 34 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0
> TiB 450
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.5 GiB 620 GiB 83.79 1.14 54 up osd.34
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 35 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0
> TiB 316
> >> > >>>> MiB 8.4 GiB 690 GiB 81.98 1.11 50 up osd.35
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 36 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 10
> TiB 489
> >> > >>>> MiB 25 GiB 4.1 TiB 71.69 0.97 208 up osd.36
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 37 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> GiB 38 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.41 0.98 195 up osd.37
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 38 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.1
> >> > >>>> GiB 26 GiB 3.7 TiB 74.88 1.02 204 up osd.38
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -8 58.89636 - 59 TiB 44 TiB 43
> TiB 3.8
> >> > >>>> GiB 111 GiB 15 TiB 74.16 1.01 - host s3db7
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 39 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB 2.7
> TiB 19
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.5 GiB 936 GiB 75.54 1.03 39 up osd.39
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 40 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6 TiB 2.5
> TiB 144
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.1 GiB 1.1 TiB 69.87 0.95 39 up osd.40
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 41 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB 2.7
> TiB 219
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.6 GiB 1011 GiB 73.57 1.00 55 up osd.41
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 42 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6 TiB 2.5
> TiB 593
> >> > >>>> MiB 7.1 GiB 1.1 TiB 70.02 0.95 47 up osd.42
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 43 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 500
> >> > >>>> MiB 27 GiB 3.7 TiB 74.67 1.01 204 up osd.43
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 44 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.1
> >> > >>>> GiB 27 GiB 3.7 TiB 74.62 1.01 193 up osd.44
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 45 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11 TiB 11
> TiB 1.2
> >> > >>>> GiB 29 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.16 1.02 204 up osd.45
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -9 51.28331 - 51 TiB 39 TiB 39
> TiB 4.9
> >> > >>>> GiB 107 GiB 12 TiB 76.50 1.04 - host s3db8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 8 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.5
> TiB 474
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.37 1.04 98 up osd.8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 16 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.7
> TiB 783
> >> > >>>> MiB 15 GiB 1.6 TiB 78.39 1.06 100 up osd.16
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 31 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.6
> TiB 441
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.6 TiB 77.70 1.05 91 up osd.31
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 52 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.5
> TiB 939
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.29 1.04 102 up osd.52
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 53 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB 5.4
> TiB 848
> >> > >>>> MiB 18 GiB 1.9 TiB 74.30 1.01 98 up osd.53
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 54 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.6
> TiB 1.0
> >> > >>>> GiB 16 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.99 1.05 106 up osd.54
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 55 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.5
> TiB 460
> >> > >>>> MiB 15 GiB 1.8 TiB 75.46 1.02 105 up osd.55
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > -10 51.28331 - 51 TiB 37 TiB 37
> TiB 3.8
> >> > >>>> GiB 96 GiB 14 TiB 72.77 0.99 - host s3db9
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 56 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 846
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.16 0.97 104 up osd.56
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 57 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.6
> TiB 513
> >> > >>>> MiB 15 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.53 1.04 96 up osd.57
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 58 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2
> TiB 604
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.23 0.97 98 up osd.58
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 59 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1
> TiB 414
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.2 TiB 70.03 0.95 88 up osd.59
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 60 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.5
> TiB 227
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.8 TiB 75.54 1.03 97 up osd.60
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 61 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1
> TiB 456
> >> > >>>> MiB 13 GiB 2.2 TiB 70.01 0.95 95 up osd.61
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 62 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.4
> TiB 843
> >> > >>>> MiB 14 GiB 1.8 TiB 74.93 1.02 110 up osd.62
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > TOTAL 674 TiB 496 TiB 468
> TiB 97
> >> > >>>> GiB 1.2 TiB 177 TiB 73.67
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > MIN/MAX VAR: 0.87/1.14 STDDEV: 4.22
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 15:02 Uhr schrieb Dan van
> der Ster
> >> > >>>> <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> OK thanks. Indeed "prepared 0/10 changes" means it
> thinks
> >> > >>>> things are balanced.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> Could you again share the full ceph osd df tree?
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 2:54 PM Boris Behrens <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > Hi Dan,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > I've set the autoscaler to warn, but it actually
> does
> >> > >>>> not warn for now. So not touching it for now.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > this is what the log says in minute intervals:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/active
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/sleep_interval
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/begin_time
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/end_time
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/begin_weekday
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/end_weekday
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.971 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/pool_ids
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4
> mgr[balancer]
> >> > >>>> Optimize plan auto_2021-03-15_13:51:00
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/mode
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4
> mgr[balancer]
> >> > >>>> Mode upmap, max misplaced 0.050000
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4
> mgr[balancer]
> >> > >>>> do_upmap
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/upmap_max_iterations
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4 mgr
> get_config
> >> > >>>> get_config key: mgr/balancer/upmap_max_deviation
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700 4
> mgr[balancer]
> >> > >>>> pools ['eu-msg-1.rgw.data.root', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.non-ec',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.keys', 'eu-central-1.rgw.gc',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data', 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.email',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.gc', 'eu-central-1.rgw.usage',
> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.keys',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.index', 'rbd', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.log',
> >> > >>>> 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10_2', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.index',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.meta', 'eu-central-1.rgw.log', 'default.rgw.gc',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.non-ec', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.usage',
> >> > >>>> 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10', 'fra-1.rgw.meta',
> >> > >>>> 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.uid', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.email',
> >> > >>>> 'fra-1.rgw.control', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.uid',
> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.control',
> >> > >>>> '.rgw.root', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.data', 'default.rgw.control',
> >> > >>>> 'fra-1.rgw.log', 'default.rgw.data.root',
> 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10_3',
> >> > >>>> 'default.rgw.log', 'eu-central-1.rgw.meta',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.data.root',
> >> > >>>> 'default.rgw.users.uid', 'eu-central-1.rgw.control']
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.224 7f307d5fd700 4
> mgr[balancer]
> >> > >>>> prepared 0/10 changes
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 14:15 Uhr schrieb Dan
> van der
> >> > >>>> Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> I suggest to just disable the autoscaler until
> your
> >> > >>>> balancing is understood.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> What does your active mgr log say (with
> debug_mgr 4/5),
> >> > >>>> grep balancer
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> /var/log/ceph/ceph-mgr.*.log
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- Dan
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 1:47 PM Boris Behrens <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hi,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > this unfortunally did not solve my problem. I
> still
> >> > >>>> have some OSDs that fill up to 85%
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > According to the logging, the autoscaler might
> want
> >> > >>>> to add more PGs to one Bucken and reduce almost all other
> buckets to 32.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > 2021-03-15 12:19:58.825 7f307f601700 4
> >> > >>>> mgr[pg_autoscaler] Pool 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data' root_id
> -1 using
> >> > >>>> 0.705080476146 of space, bias 1.0, pg target 1974.22533321
> quantized to
> >> > >>>> 2048 (current 1024)
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Why the balancing does not happen is still
> nebulous
> >> > >>>> to me.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Dan
> van
> >> > >>>> der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> OK
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Btw, you might need to fail to a new mgr...
> I'm not
> >> > >>>> sure if the current active will read that new config.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> .. dan
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 4:36 PM Boris Behrens <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ok thanks. I just changed the value and
> rewighted
> >> > >>>> everything back to 1. Now I let it sync the weekend and check
> how it will
> >> > >>>> be on monday.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> We tried to have the systems total storage
> balanced
> >> > >>>> as possible. New systems will be with 8TB disks but for the
> exiting ones we
> >> > >>>> added 16TB to offset the 4TB disks and we needed a lot of
> storage fast,
> >> > >>>> because of a DC move. If you have any recommendations I would be
> happy to
> >> > >>>> hear them.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Cheers
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Boris
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb
> Dan van
> >> > >>>> der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Decreasing the max deviation to 2 or 1
> should help
> >> > >>>> in your case. This option controls when the balancer stops
> trying to move
> >> > >>>> PGs around -- by default it stops when the deviation from the
> mean is 5.
> >> > >>>> Yes this is too large IMO -- all of our clusters have this set
> to 1.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> And given that you have some OSDs with more
> than
> >> > >>>> 200 PGs, you definitely shouldn't increase the num PGs.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> But anyway with your mixed device sizes it
> might
> >> > >>>> be challenging to make a perfectly uniform distribution. Give it
> a try with
> >> > >>>> 1 though, and let us know how it goes.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> .. Dan
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 4:11 PM Boris Behrens
> <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Hi Dan,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> upmap_max_deviation is default (5) in our
> >> > >>>> cluster. Is 1 the recommended deviation?
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I added the whole ceph osd df tree, (I
> need to
> >> > >>>> remove some OSDs and readd them as bluestore with SSD, so 69, 73
> and 82 are
> >> > >>>> a bit off now. I also reweighted to try to get the %USE
> mitigated).
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I will increase the mgr debugging to see
> what is
> >> > >>>> the problem.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd df tree
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ID CLASS WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE RAW
> USE
> >> > >>>> DATA OMAP META AVAIL %USE VAR PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -1 673.54224 - 659 TiB 491
> TiB 464
> >> > >>>> TiB 96 GiB 1.2 TiB 168 TiB 74.57 1.00 - root default
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -2 58.30331 - 44 TiB 22
> TiB 17
> >> > >>>> TiB 5.7 GiB 38 GiB 22 TiB 49.82 0.67 - host s3db1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 23 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 1.8
> TiB 1.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 156 MiB 4.4 GiB 13 TiB 12.50 0.17 101 up osd.23
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 69 hdd 14.55269 0 0 B 0
> B
> >> > >>>> 0 B 0 B 0 B 0 B 0 0 11 up osd.69
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 73 hdd 14.55269 1.00000 15 TiB 10
> TiB 10
> >> > >>>> TiB 6.1 MiB 33 GiB 4.2 TiB 71.15 0.95 107 up osd.73
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 79 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9
> TiB 747
> >> > >>>> GiB 2.0 GiB 0 B 747 GiB 79.94 1.07 52 up osd.79
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 80 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6
> TiB 1.0
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.9 GiB 0 B 1.0 TiB 71.61 0.96 58 up osd.80
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 81 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.2
> TiB 1.5
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.1 GiB 0 B 1.5 TiB 60.07 0.81 55 up osd.81
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 82 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 1.9
> TiB 1.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 536 MiB 0 B 1.7 TiB 52.68 0.71 30 up osd.82
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -11 50.94173 - 51 TiB 38
> TiB 38
> >> > >>>> TiB 3.7 GiB 100 GiB 13 TiB 74.69 1.00 - host s3db10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 63 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5
> TiB 5.5
> >> > >>>> TiB 616 MiB 14 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.04 1.02 92 up osd.63
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 64 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5
> TiB 5.5
> >> > >>>> TiB 820 MiB 15 GiB 1.8 TiB 75.54 1.01 101 up osd.64
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 65 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3
> TiB 5.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 109 MiB 14 GiB 2.0 TiB 73.17 0.98 105 up osd.65
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 66 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.8
> TiB 5.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 423 MiB 15 GiB 1.4 TiB 80.38 1.08 98 up osd.66
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 67 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1
> TiB 5.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 572 MiB 14 GiB 2.2 TiB 70.10 0.94 100 up osd.67
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 68 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3
> TiB 5.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 630 MiB 13 GiB 2.0 TiB 72.88 0.98 107 up osd.68
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 70 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4
> TiB 5.4
> >> > >>>> TiB 648 MiB 14 GiB 1.8 TiB 74.73 1.00 102 up osd.70
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -12 50.99052 - 51 TiB 39
> TiB 39
> >> > >>>> TiB 2.9 GiB 99 GiB 12 TiB 77.24 1.04 - host s3db11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 46 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7
> TiB 5.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 102 MiB 15 GiB 1.5 TiB 78.91 1.06 97 up osd.46
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 47 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2
> TiB 5.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 61 MiB 13 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.47 0.96 96 up osd.47
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 48 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1
> TiB 6.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 853 MiB 15 GiB 1.2 TiB 83.46 1.12 109 up osd.48
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 49 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7
> TiB 5.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 708 MiB 15 GiB 1.5 TiB 78.96 1.06 98 up osd.49
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 50 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9
> TiB 5.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 472 MiB 15 GiB 1.4 TiB 80.40 1.08 102 up osd.50
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 51 hdd 7.27739 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9
> TiB 5.9
> >> > >>>> TiB 729 MiB 15 GiB 1.3 TiB 81.70 1.10 110 up osd.51
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 72 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 4.8
> TiB 4.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 91 MiB 12 GiB 2.5 TiB 65.82 0.88 89 up osd.72
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -37 58.55478 - 59 TiB 46
> TiB 46
> >> > >>>> TiB 5.0 GiB 124 GiB 12 TiB 79.04 1.06 - host s3db12
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 19 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1
> TiB 3.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 462 MiB 8.2 GiB 559 GiB 85.18 1.14 55 up osd.19
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 71 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9
> TiB 2.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 3.9 MiB 7.8 GiB 825 GiB 78.14 1.05 50 up osd.71
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 75 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1
> TiB 3.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 576 MiB 8.3 GiB 555 GiB 85.29 1.14 57 up osd.75
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 76 hdd 3.68750 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.2
> TiB 3.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 239 MiB 9.3 GiB 501 GiB 86.73 1.16 50 up osd.76
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 77 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 880 MiB 30 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.57 1.01 202 up osd.77
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 78 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.0 GiB 30 GiB 3.4 TiB 76.65 1.03 196 up osd.78
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 83 hdd 14.60159 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 12
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.8 GiB 31 GiB 2.9 TiB 80.04 1.07 223 up osd.83
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -3 58.49872 - 58 TiB 43
> TiB 38
> >> > >>>> TiB 8.1 GiB 91 GiB 16 TiB 73.15 0.98 - host s3db2
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 1 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 3.1 GiB 38 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.52 1.01 194 up osd.1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 3 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.2
> TiB 1.4
> >> > >>>> TiB 418 MiB 0 B 1.4 TiB 60.94 0.82 52 up osd.3
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 4 hdd 3.63689 0.89999 3.6 TiB 3.2
> TiB 401
> >> > >>>> GiB 845 MiB 0 B 401 GiB 89.23 1.20 53 up osd.4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 5 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3
> TiB 1.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 437 MiB 0 B 1.3 TiB 62.88 0.84 51 up osd.5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 6 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.0
> TiB 1.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.8 GiB 0 B 1.7 TiB 54.51 0.73 47 up osd.6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 7 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 493 MiB 26 GiB 3.8 TiB 73.90 0.99 185 up osd.7
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 74 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.1 GiB 27 GiB 3.5 TiB 76.27 1.02 208 up osd.74
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -4 58.49872 - 58 TiB 43
> TiB 37
> >> > >>>> TiB 33 GiB 86 GiB 15 TiB 74.05 0.99 - host s3db3
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 2 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 850 MiB 26 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.78 0.98 203 up osd.2
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 9 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 8.3 GiB 33 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.62 1.01 189 up osd.9
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 10 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 663 MiB 28 GiB 3.5 TiB 76.34 1.02 211 up osd.10
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 12 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4
> TiB 1.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 633 MiB 0 B 1.2 TiB 66.22 0.89 44 up osd.12
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 13 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9
> TiB 720
> >> > >>>> GiB 2.3 GiB 0 B 720 GiB 80.66 1.08 66 up osd.13
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 14 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.1
> TiB 552
> >> > >>>> GiB 18 GiB 0 B 552 GiB 85.18 1.14 60 up osd.14
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 15 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.0
> TiB 1.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 2.1 GiB 0 B 1.7 TiB 53.72 0.72 44 up osd.15
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -5 58.49872 - 58 TiB 45
> TiB 37
> >> > >>>> TiB 7.2 GiB 99 GiB 14 TiB 76.37 1.02 - host s3db4
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 11 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 12
> >> > >>>> TiB 897 MiB 28 GiB 2.8 TiB 81.15 1.09 205 up osd.11
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 17 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.2 GiB 27 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.38 1.01 211 up osd.17
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 18 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 965 MiB 44 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.86 0.98 188 up osd.18
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 20 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9
> TiB 796
> >> > >>>> GiB 529 MiB 0 B 796 GiB 78.63 1.05 66 up osd.20
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 21 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6
> TiB 1.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 2.1 GiB 0 B 1.1 TiB 70.32 0.94 47 up osd.21
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 22 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9
> TiB 802
> >> > >>>> GiB 882 MiB 0 B 802 GiB 78.47 1.05 58 up osd.22
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 24 hdd 3.63689 1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.8
> TiB 856
> >> > >>>> GiB 645 MiB 0 B 856 GiB 77.01 1.03 47 up osd.24
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -6 58.89636 - 59 TiB 44
> TiB 44
> >> > >>>> TiB 2.4 GiB 111 GiB 15 TiB 75.22 1.01 - host s3db5
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 0 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.4
> TiB 2.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 70 MiB 6.6 GiB 1.3 TiB 65.00 0.87 48 up osd.0
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 25 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.4
> TiB 2.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 5.3 MiB 6.6 GiB 1.4 TiB 63.86 0.86 41 up osd.25
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 26 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9
> TiB 2.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 181 MiB 7.6 GiB 862 GiB 77.47 1.04 48 up osd.26
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 27 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.3
> TiB 2.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 7.0 MiB 6.1 GiB 1.5 TiB 61.00 0.82 48 up osd.27
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 28 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 12
> >> > >>>> TiB 937 MiB 30 GiB 2.8 TiB 81.19 1.09 203 up osd.28
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 29 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 536 MiB 26 GiB 3.8 TiB 73.95 0.99 200 up osd.29
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 30 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 744 MiB 28 GiB 3.1 TiB 79.07 1.06 207 up osd.30
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -7 58.89636 - 59 TiB 44
> TiB 44
> >> > >>>> TiB 14 GiB 122 GiB 14 TiB 75.41 1.01 - host s3db6
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 32 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1
> TiB 3.0
> >> > >>>> TiB 16 MiB 8.2 GiB 622 GiB 83.74 1.12 65 up osd.32
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 33 hdd 3.73630 0.79999 3.7 TiB 3.0
> TiB 2.9
> >> > >>>> TiB 14 MiB 8.1 GiB 740 GiB 80.67 1.08 52 up osd.33
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 34 hdd 3.73630 0.79999 3.7 TiB 2.9
> TiB 2.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 449 MiB 7.7 GiB 877 GiB 77.08 1.03 52 up osd.34
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 35 hdd 3.73630 0.79999 3.7 TiB 2.3
> TiB 2.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 133 MiB 7.0 GiB 1.4 TiB 62.18 0.83 42 up osd.35
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 36 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 544 MiB 26 GiB 4.0 TiB 72.98 0.98 220 up osd.36
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 37 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 11 GiB 38 GiB 3.6 TiB 75.30 1.01 200 up osd.37
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 38 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 11
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.2 GiB 28 GiB 3.3 TiB 77.43 1.04 217 up osd.38
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -8 58.89636 - 59 TiB 47
> TiB 46
> >> > >>>> TiB 3.9 GiB 116 GiB 12 TiB 78.98 1.06 - host s3db7
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 39 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.2
> TiB 3.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 19 MiB 8.5 GiB 499 GiB 86.96 1.17 43 up osd.39
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 40 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6
> TiB 2.5
> >> > >>>> TiB 144 MiB 7.0 GiB 1.2 TiB 68.33 0.92 39 up osd.40
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 41 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0
> TiB 2.9
> >> > >>>> TiB 218 MiB 7.9 GiB 732 GiB 80.86 1.08 64 up osd.41
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 42 hdd 3.73630 1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.5
> TiB 2.4
> >> > >>>> TiB 594 MiB 7.0 GiB 1.2 TiB 67.97 0.91 50 up osd.42
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 43 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 12
> >> > >>>> TiB 564 MiB 28 GiB 2.9 TiB 80.32 1.08 213 up osd.43
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 44 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 11
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.3 GiB 28 GiB 3.1 TiB 78.59 1.05 198 up osd.44
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 45 hdd 14.65039 1.00000 15 TiB 12
> TiB 12
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.2 GiB 30 GiB 2.8 TiB 81.05 1.09 214 up osd.45
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -9 51.28331 - 51 TiB 41
> TiB 41
> >> > >>>> TiB 4.9 GiB 108 GiB 10 TiB 79.75 1.07 - host s3db8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 8 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.8
> TiB 5.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 472 MiB 15 GiB 1.5 TiB 79.68 1.07 99 up osd.8
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 16 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9
> TiB 5.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 785 MiB 15 GiB 1.4 TiB 80.25 1.08 97 up osd.16
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 31 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5
> TiB 5.5
> >> > >>>> TiB 438 MiB 14 GiB 1.8 TiB 75.36 1.01 87 up osd.31
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 52 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7
> TiB 5.7
> >> > >>>> TiB 844 MiB 15 GiB 1.6 TiB 78.19 1.05 113 up osd.52
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 53 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.2
> TiB 6.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 792 MiB 18 GiB 1.1 TiB 84.46 1.13 109 up osd.53
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 54 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6
> TiB 5.6
> >> > >>>> TiB 959 MiB 15 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.73 1.03 115 up osd.54
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 55 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1
> TiB 6.1
> >> > >>>> TiB 699 MiB 16 GiB 1.2 TiB 83.56 1.12 122 up osd.55
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -10 51.28331 - 51 TiB 39
> TiB 39
> >> > >>>> TiB 4.7 GiB 100 GiB 12 TiB 76.05 1.02 - host s3db9
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 56 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2
> TiB 5.2
> >> > >>>> TiB 840 MiB 13 GiB 2.1 TiB 71.06 0.95 105 up osd.56
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 57 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1
> TiB 6.0
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.0 GiB 16 GiB 1.2 TiB 83.17 1.12 102 up osd.57
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 58 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.0
> TiB 5.9
> >> > >>>> TiB 43 MiB 15 GiB 1.4 TiB 81.56 1.09 105 up osd.58
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 59 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9
> TiB 5.9
> >> > >>>> TiB 429 MiB 15 GiB 1.4 TiB 80.64 1.08 94 up osd.59
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 60 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4
> TiB 5.3
> >> > >>>> TiB 226 MiB 14 GiB 2.0 TiB 73.25 0.98 101 up osd.60
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 61 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 4.8
> TiB 4.8
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.1 GiB 12 GiB 2.5 TiB 65.84 0.88 103 up osd.61
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> 62 hdd 7.32619 1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6
> TiB 5.6
> >> > >>>> TiB 1.0 GiB 15 GiB 1.7 TiB 76.83 1.03 126 up osd.62
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> TOTAL 674 TiB 501
> TiB 473
> >> > >>>> TiB 96 GiB 1.2 TiB 173 TiB 74.57
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.17/1.20 STDDEV: 10.25
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb
> Dan
> >> > >>>> van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> No, increasing num PGs won't help
> substantially.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> Can you share the entire output of ceph
> osd df
> >> > >>>> tree ?
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> Did you already set
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> ceph config set mgr
> >> > >>>> mgr/balancer/upmap_max_deviation 1
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> ??
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> And I recommend debug_mgr 4/5 so you can
> see
> >> > >>>> some basic upmap balancer logging.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> .. Dan
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 3:49 PM Boris
> Behrens <
> >> > >>>> bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> Hello people,
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> I am still struggeling with the balancer
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> (
> >> > >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@xxxxxxx/msg09124.html)
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> Now I've read some more and might think
> that I
> >> > >>>> do not have enough PGs.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> Currently I have 84OSDs and 1024PGs for
> the
> >> > >>>> main pool (3008 total). I
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> have the autoscaler enabled, but I
> doesn't tell
> >> > >>>> me to increase the
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> PGs.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> What do you think?
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme"
> trifft
> >> > >>>> sich diesmal abweichend
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> _______________________________________________
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list --
> ceph-users@xxxxxxx
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to
> >> > >>>> ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme"
> trifft
> >> > >>>> sich diesmal abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme"
> trifft sich
> >> > >>>> diesmal abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft
> sich
> >> > >>>> diesmal abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich
> >> > >>>> diesmal abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich
> diesmal
> >> > >>>> abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> --
> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich
> diesmal
> >> > >>>> abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >> > --
> >> > >>>> >> >> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich
> diesmal
> >> > >>>> abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> >
> >> > >>>> >> > --
> >> > >>>> >> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal
> >> > >>>> abweichend im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > --
> >> > >>>> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal
> abweichend
> >> > >>>> im groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>> Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal
> abweichend im
> >> > >>> groüen Saal.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal
> abweichend im
> >> > > groüen Saal.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal abweichend
> im
> >> > groüen Saal.
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx
> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal abweichend im
> groüen Saal.
>
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Die Selbsthilfegruppe "UTF-8-Probleme" trifft sich diesmal abweichend im
groüen Saal.
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