Re: should I increase the amount of PGs?

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Absolutly:
[root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd df tree
ID  CLASS WEIGHT    REWEIGHT SIZE    RAW USE DATA     OMAP     META
 AVAIL    %USE  VAR  PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
 -1       673.54224        - 674 TiB 496 TiB  468 TiB   97 GiB 1.2 TiB  177
TiB 73.67 1.00   -        root default
 -2        58.30331        -  58 TiB  42 TiB   38 TiB  9.2 GiB  99 GiB   16
TiB 72.88 0.99   -            host s3db1
 23   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  714 MiB  25 GiB  3.7
TiB 74.87 1.02 194     up         osd.23
 69   hdd  14.55269  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.6 GiB  40 GiB  3.4
TiB 76.32 1.04 199     up         osd.69
 73   hdd  14.55269  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.3 GiB  34 GiB  3.8
TiB 74.15 1.01 203     up         osd.73
 79   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB  1.3 TiB  1.8 GiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 65.44 0.89  47     up         osd.79
 80   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB  1.3 TiB  2.2 GiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 65.34 0.89  48     up         osd.80
 81   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB  1.3 TiB  1.1 GiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 65.38 0.89  47     up         osd.81
 82   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.5 TiB  1.1 TiB  619 MiB     0 B  1.1
TiB 68.46 0.93  41     up         osd.82
-11        50.94173        -  51 TiB  37 TiB   37 TiB  3.5 GiB  98 GiB   14
TiB 71.90 0.98   -            host s3db10
 63   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB  5.3 TiB  647 MiB  14 GiB  2.0
TiB 72.72 0.99  94     up         osd.63
 64   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB  5.2 TiB  668 MiB  14 GiB  2.0
TiB 72.23 0.98  93     up         osd.64
 65   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  227 MiB  14 GiB  2.1
TiB 71.16 0.97 100     up         osd.65
 66   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB  5.4 TiB  313 MiB  14 GiB  1.9
TiB 74.25 1.01  92     up         osd.66
 67   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB  5.1 TiB  584 MiB  14 GiB  2.1
TiB 70.63 0.96  96     up         osd.67
 68   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  720 MiB  14 GiB  2.1
TiB 71.72 0.97 101     up         osd.68
 70   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB  5.1 TiB  425 MiB  14 GiB  2.1
TiB 70.59 0.96  97     up         osd.70
-12        50.99052        -  51 TiB  38 TiB   37 TiB  2.1 GiB  97 GiB   13
TiB 73.77 1.00   -            host s3db11
 46   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB  5.6 TiB  229 MiB  14 GiB  1.7
TiB 77.05 1.05  97     up         osd.46
 47   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB  5.1 TiB  159 MiB  13 GiB  2.2
TiB 70.00 0.95  89     up         osd.47
 48   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  279 MiB  14 GiB  2.1
TiB 71.82 0.97  98     up         osd.48
 49   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB  5.4 TiB  276 MiB  14 GiB  1.8
TiB 74.90 1.02  95     up         osd.49
 50   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  336 MiB  14 GiB  2.0
TiB 72.13 0.98  93     up         osd.50
 51   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB  5.6 TiB  728 MiB  15 GiB  1.6
TiB 77.76 1.06  98     up         osd.51
 72   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB  5.3 TiB  147 MiB  13 GiB  2.0
TiB 72.75 0.99  95     up         osd.72
-37        58.55478        -  59 TiB  44 TiB   44 TiB  4.4 GiB 122 GiB   15
TiB 75.20 1.02   -            host s3db12
 19   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB  2.9 TiB  454 MiB 8.2 GiB  780
GiB 79.35 1.08  53     up         osd.19
 71   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB  2.9 TiB  7.1 MiB 8.0 GiB  734
GiB 80.56 1.09  47     up         osd.71
 75   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB  2.9 TiB  439 MiB 8.2 GiB  777
GiB 79.43 1.08  48     up         osd.75
 76   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB  3.0 TiB  241 MiB 8.9 GiB  688
GiB 81.77 1.11  50     up         osd.76
 77   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  880 MiB  30 GiB  3.6
TiB 75.44 1.02 201     up         osd.77
 78   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  10 TiB   10 TiB 1015 MiB  28 GiB  4.2
TiB 71.26 0.97 193     up         osd.78
 83   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.4 GiB  30 GiB  3.8
TiB 73.76 1.00 203     up         osd.83
 -3        58.49872        -  58 TiB  42 TiB   36 TiB  8.2 GiB  89 GiB   17
TiB 71.71 0.97   -            host s3db2
  1   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  3.2 GiB  37 GiB  3.7
TiB 74.58 1.01 196     up         osd.1
  3   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB  1.3 TiB  566 MiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 64.11 0.87  50     up         osd.3
  4   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB  771 GiB  695 MiB     0 B  771
GiB 79.30 1.08  48     up         osd.4
  5   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB  1.2 TiB  482 MiB     0 B  1.2
TiB 66.51 0.90  49     up         osd.5
  6   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB  1.3 TiB  1.8 GiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 64.00 0.87  42     up         osd.6
  7   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  639 MiB  26 GiB  4.0
TiB 72.44 0.98 192     up         osd.7
 74   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  10 TiB   10 TiB  907 MiB  26 GiB  4.2
TiB 71.32 0.97 193     up         osd.74
 -4        58.49872        -  58 TiB  43 TiB   36 TiB   34 GiB  85 GiB   16
TiB 72.69 0.99   -            host s3db3
  2   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  980 MiB  26 GiB  3.8
TiB 74.36 1.01 203     up         osd.2
  9   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  8.4 GiB  33 GiB  3.9
TiB 73.51 1.00 186     up         osd.9
 10   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  10 TiB   10 TiB  650 MiB  26 GiB  4.2
TiB 71.64 0.97 201     up         osd.10
 12   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB  1.3 TiB  754 MiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 64.17 0.87  44     up         osd.12
 13   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.8 TiB  813 GiB  2.4 GiB     0 B  813
GiB 78.17 1.06  58     up         osd.13
 14   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB  797 GiB   19 GiB     0 B  797
GiB 78.60 1.07  56     up         osd.14
 15   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB  1.3 TiB  2.2 GiB     0 B  1.3
TiB 63.96 0.87  41     up         osd.15
 -5        58.49872        -  58 TiB  43 TiB   36 TiB  6.7 GiB  97 GiB   15
TiB 74.04 1.01   -            host s3db4
 11   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  940 MiB  26 GiB  4.0
TiB 72.49 0.98 196     up         osd.11
 17   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB 1022 MiB  26 GiB  3.6
TiB 75.23 1.02 204     up         osd.17
 18   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  945 MiB  45 GiB  3.8
TiB 74.16 1.01 193     up         osd.18
 20   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1020 GiB  596 MiB     0 B 1020
GiB 72.62 0.99  57     up         osd.20
 21   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1023 GiB  1.9 GiB     0 B 1023
GiB 72.54 0.98  41     up         osd.21
 22   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1023 GiB  797 MiB     0 B 1023
GiB 72.54 0.98  53     up         osd.22
 24   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB  766 GiB  618 MiB     0 B  766
GiB 79.42 1.08  46     up         osd.24
 -6        58.89636        -  59 TiB  43 TiB   43 TiB  3.0 GiB 108 GiB   16
TiB 73.40 1.00   -            host s3db5
  0   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB  2.6 TiB   92 MiB 7.2 GiB  1.1
TiB 71.16 0.97  45     up         osd.0
 25   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB  2.6 TiB  2.4 MiB 7.3 GiB  1.1
TiB 71.23 0.97  41     up         osd.25
 26   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB  2.7 TiB  181 MiB 7.6 GiB  935
GiB 75.57 1.03  45     up         osd.26
 27   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB  2.6 TiB  5.1 MiB 7.0 GiB  1.1
TiB 71.20 0.97  47     up         osd.27
 28   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  977 MiB  26 GiB  3.8
TiB 73.85 1.00 197     up         osd.28
 29   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   10 TiB  872 MiB  26 GiB  4.1
TiB 71.98 0.98 196     up         osd.29
 30   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  943 MiB  27 GiB  3.6
TiB 75.51 1.03 202     up         osd.30
 -7        58.89636        -  59 TiB  44 TiB   43 TiB   13 GiB 122 GiB   15
TiB 74.97 1.02   -            host s3db6
 32   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB  2.7 TiB   27 MiB 7.6 GiB  940
GiB 75.42 1.02  55     up         osd.32
 33   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB  3.0 TiB  376 MiB 8.2 GiB  691
GiB 81.94 1.11  55     up         osd.33
 34   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB  3.0 TiB  450 MiB 8.5 GiB  620
GiB 83.79 1.14  54     up         osd.34
 35   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB  3.0 TiB  316 MiB 8.4 GiB  690
GiB 81.98 1.11  50     up         osd.35
 36   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   10 TiB  489 MiB  25 GiB  4.1
TiB 71.69 0.97 208     up         osd.36
 37   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB   11 GiB  38 GiB  4.0
TiB 72.41 0.98 195     up         osd.37
 38   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.1 GiB  26 GiB  3.7
TiB 74.88 1.02 204     up         osd.38
 -8        58.89636        -  59 TiB  44 TiB   43 TiB  3.8 GiB 111 GiB   15
TiB 74.16 1.01   -            host s3db7
 39   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.8 TiB  2.7 TiB   19 MiB 7.5 GiB  936
GiB 75.54 1.03  39     up         osd.39
 40   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6 TiB  2.5 TiB  144 MiB 7.1 GiB  1.1
TiB 69.87 0.95  39     up         osd.40
 41   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.7 TiB  2.7 TiB  219 MiB 7.6 GiB 1011
GiB 73.57 1.00  55     up         osd.41
 42   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6 TiB  2.5 TiB  593 MiB 7.1 GiB  1.1
TiB 70.02 0.95  47     up         osd.42
 43   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  500 MiB  27 GiB  3.7
TiB 74.67 1.01 204     up         osd.43
 44   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.1 GiB  27 GiB  3.7
TiB 74.62 1.01 193     up         osd.44
 45   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB   11 TiB  1.2 GiB  29 GiB  3.6
TiB 75.16 1.02 204     up         osd.45
 -9        51.28331        -  51 TiB  39 TiB   39 TiB  4.9 GiB 107 GiB   12
TiB 76.50 1.04   -            host s3db8
  8   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB  5.5 TiB  474 MiB  14 GiB  1.7
TiB 76.37 1.04  98     up         osd.8
 16   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB  5.7 TiB  783 MiB  15 GiB  1.6
TiB 78.39 1.06 100     up         osd.16
 31   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB  5.6 TiB  441 MiB  14 GiB  1.6
TiB 77.70 1.05  91     up         osd.31
 52   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB  5.5 TiB  939 MiB  14 GiB  1.7
TiB 76.29 1.04 102     up         osd.52
 53   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB  5.4 TiB  848 MiB  18 GiB  1.9
TiB 74.30 1.01  98     up         osd.53
 54   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB  5.6 TiB  1.0 GiB  16 GiB  1.7
TiB 76.99 1.05 106     up         osd.54
 55   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB  5.5 TiB  460 MiB  15 GiB  1.8
TiB 75.46 1.02 105     up         osd.55
-10        51.28331        -  51 TiB  37 TiB   37 TiB  3.8 GiB  96 GiB   14
TiB 72.77 0.99   -            host s3db9
 56   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  846 MiB  13 GiB  2.1
TiB 71.16 0.97 104     up         osd.56
 57   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB  5.6 TiB  513 MiB  15 GiB  1.7
TiB 76.53 1.04  96     up         osd.57
 58   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB  5.2 TiB  604 MiB  13 GiB  2.1
TiB 71.23 0.97  98     up         osd.58
 59   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB  5.1 TiB  414 MiB  13 GiB  2.2
TiB 70.03 0.95  88     up         osd.59
 60   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB  5.5 TiB  227 MiB  14 GiB  1.8
TiB 75.54 1.03  97     up         osd.60
 61   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB  5.1 TiB  456 MiB  13 GiB  2.2
TiB 70.01 0.95  95     up         osd.61
 62   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB  5.4 TiB  843 MiB  14 GiB  1.8
TiB 74.93 1.02 110     up         osd.62
                       TOTAL 674 TiB 496 TiB  468 TiB   97 GiB 1.2 TiB  177
TiB 73.67
MIN/MAX VAR: 0.87/1.14  STDDEV: 4.22

Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 15:02 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> OK thanks. Indeed "prepared 0/10 changes" means it thinks things are
> balanced.
> Could you again share the full ceph osd df tree?
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 2:54 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I've set the autoscaler to warn, but it actually does not warn for now.
> So not touching it for now.
> >
> > this is what the log says in minute intervals:
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/active
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/sleep_interval
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/begin_time
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/end_time
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/begin_weekday
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.970 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/end_weekday
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:00.971 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/pool_ids
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr[balancer] Optimize plan
> auto_2021-03-15_13:51:00
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/mode
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr[balancer] Mode upmap, max
> misplaced 0.050000
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr[balancer] do_upmap
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/upmap_max_iterations
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr get_config get_config key:
> mgr/balancer/upmap_max_deviation
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.203 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr[balancer] pools
> ['eu-msg-1.rgw.data.root', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.non-ec',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.keys', 'eu-central-1.rgw.gc',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data', 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.email',
> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.gc', 'eu-central-1.rgw.usage', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.keys',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.index', 'rbd', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.log',
> 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10_2', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.index',
> 'eu-msg-1.rgw.meta', 'eu-central-1.rgw.log', 'default.rgw.gc',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.non-ec', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.usage',
> 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10', 'fra-1.rgw.meta',
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.users.uid', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.email',
> 'fra-1.rgw.control', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.users.uid', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.control',
> '.rgw.root', 'eu-msg-1.rgw.buckets.data', 'default.rgw.control',
> 'fra-1.rgw.log', 'default.rgw.data.root', 'whitespace-again-2021-03-10_3',
> 'default.rgw.log', 'eu-central-1.rgw.meta', 'eu-central-1.rgw.data.root',
> 'default.rgw.users.uid', 'eu-central-1.rgw.control']
> > 2021-03-15 13:51:01.224 7f307d5fd700  4 mgr[balancer] prepared 0/10
> changes
> >
> > Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 14:15 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> I suggest to just disable the autoscaler until your balancing is
> understood.
> >>
> >> What does your active mgr log say (with debug_mgr 4/5), grep balancer
> >> /var/log/ceph/ceph-mgr.*.log
> >>
> >> -- Dan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 1:47 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > this unfortunally did not solve my problem. I still have some OSDs
> that fill up to 85%
> >> >
> >> > According to the logging, the autoscaler might want to add more PGs
> to one Bucken and reduce almost all other buckets to 32.
> >> > 2021-03-15 12:19:58.825 7f307f601700  4 mgr[pg_autoscaler] Pool
> 'eu-central-1.rgw.buckets.data' root_id -1 using 0.705080476146 of space,
> bias 1.0, pg target 1974.22533321 quantized to 2048 (current 1024)
> >> >
> >> > Why the balancing does not happen is still nebulous to me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>
> >> >> OK
> >> >> Btw, you might need to fail to a new mgr... I'm not sure if the
> current active will read that new config.
> >> >>
> >> >> .. dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 4:36 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ok thanks. I just changed the value and rewighted everything back
> to 1. Now I let it sync the weekend and check how it will be on monday.
> >> >>> We tried to have the systems total storage balanced as possible.
> New systems will be with 8TB disks but for the exiting ones we added 16TB
> to offset the 4TB disks and we needed a lot of storage fast, because of a
> DC move. If you have any recommendations I would be happy to hear them.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers
> >> >>>  Boris
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Decreasing the max deviation to 2 or 1 should help in your case.
> This option controls when the balancer stops trying to move PGs around --
> by default it stops when the deviation from the mean is 5. Yes this is too
> large IMO -- all of our clusters have this set to 1.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And given that you have some OSDs with more than 200 PGs, you
> definitely shouldn't increase the num PGs.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> But anyway with your mixed device sizes it might be challenging to
> make a perfectly uniform distribution. Give it a try with 1 though, and let
> us know how it goes.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> .. Dan
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 4:11 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi Dan,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> upmap_max_deviation is default (5) in our cluster. Is 1 the
> recommended deviation?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I added the whole ceph osd df tree, (I need to remove some OSDs
> and readd them as bluestore with SSD, so 69, 73 and 82 are a bit off now. I
> also reweighted to try to get the %USE mitigated).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I will increase the mgr debugging to see what is the problem.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [root@s3db1 ~]# ceph osd df tree
> >> >>>>> ID  CLASS WEIGHT    REWEIGHT SIZE    RAW USE DATA    OMAP
> META    AVAIL   %USE  VAR  PGS STATUS TYPE NAME
> >> >>>>>  -1       673.54224        - 659 TiB 491 TiB 464 TiB  96 GiB 1.2
> TiB 168 TiB 74.57 1.00   -        root default
> >> >>>>>  -2        58.30331        -  44 TiB  22 TiB  17 TiB 5.7 GiB  38
> GiB  22 TiB 49.82 0.67   -            host s3db1
> >> >>>>>  23   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB 1.8 TiB 1.7 TiB 156 MiB 4.4
> GiB  13 TiB 12.50 0.17 101     up         osd.23
> >> >>>>>  69   hdd  14.55269        0     0 B     0 B     0 B     0 B
>  0 B     0 B     0    0  11     up         osd.69
> >> >>>>>  73   hdd  14.55269  1.00000  15 TiB  10 TiB  10 TiB 6.1 MiB  33
> GiB 4.2 TiB 71.15 0.95 107     up         osd.73
> >> >>>>>  79   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 747 GiB 2.0 GiB
>  0 B 747 GiB 79.94 1.07  52     up         osd.79
> >> >>>>>  80   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1.0 TiB 1.9 GiB
>  0 B 1.0 TiB 71.61 0.96  58     up         osd.80
> >> >>>>>  81   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.2 TiB 1.5 TiB 1.1 GiB
>  0 B 1.5 TiB 60.07 0.81  55     up         osd.81
> >> >>>>>  82   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 1.9 TiB 1.7 TiB 536 MiB
>  0 B 1.7 TiB 52.68 0.71  30     up         osd.82
> >> >>>>> -11        50.94173        -  51 TiB  38 TiB  38 TiB 3.7 GiB 100
> GiB  13 TiB 74.69 1.00   -            host s3db10
> >> >>>>>  63   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.5 TiB 616 MiB  14
> GiB 1.7 TiB 76.04 1.02  92     up         osd.63
> >> >>>>>  64   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.5 TiB 820 MiB  15
> GiB 1.8 TiB 75.54 1.01 101     up         osd.64
> >> >>>>>  65   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 109 MiB  14
> GiB 2.0 TiB 73.17 0.98 105     up         osd.65
> >> >>>>>  66   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.8 TiB 5.8 TiB 423 MiB  15
> GiB 1.4 TiB 80.38 1.08  98     up         osd.66
> >> >>>>>  67   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.1 TiB 5.1 TiB 572 MiB  14
> GiB 2.2 TiB 70.10 0.94 100     up         osd.67
> >> >>>>>  68   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 5.3 TiB 630 MiB  13
> GiB 2.0 TiB 72.88 0.98 107     up         osd.68
> >> >>>>>  70   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB 5.4 TiB 648 MiB  14
> GiB 1.8 TiB 74.73 1.00 102     up         osd.70
> >> >>>>> -12        50.99052        -  51 TiB  39 TiB  39 TiB 2.9 GiB  99
> GiB  12 TiB 77.24 1.04   -            host s3db11
> >> >>>>>  46   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.7 TiB 102 MiB  15
> GiB 1.5 TiB 78.91 1.06  97     up         osd.46
> >> >>>>>  47   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2 TiB  61 MiB  13
> GiB 2.1 TiB 71.47 0.96  96     up         osd.47
> >> >>>>>  48   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1 TiB 6.1 TiB 853 MiB  15
> GiB 1.2 TiB 83.46 1.12 109     up         osd.48
> >> >>>>>  49   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.7 TiB 708 MiB  15
> GiB 1.5 TiB 78.96 1.06  98     up         osd.49
> >> >>>>>  50   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9 TiB 5.8 TiB 472 MiB  15
> GiB 1.4 TiB 80.40 1.08 102     up         osd.50
> >> >>>>>  51   hdd   7.27739  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9 TiB 5.9 TiB 729 MiB  15
> GiB 1.3 TiB 81.70 1.10 110     up         osd.51
> >> >>>>>  72   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 4.8 TiB 4.8 TiB  91 MiB  12
> GiB 2.5 TiB 65.82 0.88  89     up         osd.72
> >> >>>>> -37        58.55478        -  59 TiB  46 TiB  46 TiB 5.0 GiB 124
> GiB  12 TiB 79.04 1.06   -            host s3db12
> >> >>>>>  19   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.1 TiB 462 MiB 8.2
> GiB 559 GiB 85.18 1.14  55     up         osd.19
> >> >>>>>  71   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB 2.8 TiB 3.9 MiB 7.8
> GiB 825 GiB 78.14 1.05  50     up         osd.71
> >> >>>>>  75   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.1 TiB 576 MiB 8.3
> GiB 555 GiB 85.29 1.14  57     up         osd.75
> >> >>>>>  76   hdd   3.68750  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.2 TiB 3.1 TiB 239 MiB 9.3
> GiB 501 GiB 86.73 1.16  50     up         osd.76
> >> >>>>>  77   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 880 MiB  30
> GiB 3.6 TiB 75.57 1.01 202     up         osd.77
> >> >>>>>  78   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 1.0 GiB  30
> GiB 3.4 TiB 76.65 1.03 196     up         osd.78
> >> >>>>>  83   hdd  14.60159  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  12 TiB 1.8 GiB  31
> GiB 2.9 TiB 80.04 1.07 223     up         osd.83
> >> >>>>>  -3        58.49872        -  58 TiB  43 TiB  38 TiB 8.1 GiB  91
> GiB  16 TiB 73.15 0.98   -            host s3db2
> >> >>>>>   1   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 3.1 GiB  38
> GiB 3.6 TiB 75.52 1.01 194     up         osd.1
> >> >>>>>   3   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.2 TiB 1.4 TiB 418 MiB
>  0 B 1.4 TiB 60.94 0.82  52     up         osd.3
> >> >>>>>   4   hdd   3.63689  0.89999 3.6 TiB 3.2 TiB 401 GiB 845 MiB
>  0 B 401 GiB 89.23 1.20  53     up         osd.4
> >> >>>>>   5   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.3 TiB 1.3 TiB 437 MiB
>  0 B 1.3 TiB 62.88 0.84  51     up         osd.5
> >> >>>>>   6   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.0 TiB 1.7 TiB 1.8 GiB
>  0 B 1.7 TiB 54.51 0.73  47     up         osd.6
> >> >>>>>   7   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 493 MiB  26
> GiB 3.8 TiB 73.90 0.99 185     up         osd.7
> >> >>>>>  74   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 1.1 GiB  27
> GiB 3.5 TiB 76.27 1.02 208     up         osd.74
> >> >>>>>  -4        58.49872        -  58 TiB  43 TiB  37 TiB  33 GiB  86
> GiB  15 TiB 74.05 0.99   -            host s3db3
> >> >>>>>   2   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 850 MiB  26
> GiB 4.0 TiB 72.78 0.98 203     up         osd.2
> >> >>>>>   9   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 8.3 GiB  33
> GiB 3.6 TiB 75.62 1.01 189     up         osd.9
> >> >>>>>  10   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 663 MiB  28
> GiB 3.5 TiB 76.34 1.02 211     up         osd.10
> >> >>>>>  12   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.4 TiB 1.2 TiB 633 MiB
>  0 B 1.2 TiB 66.22 0.89  44     up         osd.12
> >> >>>>>  13   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 720 GiB 2.3 GiB
>  0 B 720 GiB 80.66 1.08  66     up         osd.13
> >> >>>>>  14   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 3.1 TiB 552 GiB  18 GiB
>  0 B 552 GiB 85.18 1.14  60     up         osd.14
> >> >>>>>  15   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.0 TiB 1.7 TiB 2.1 GiB
>  0 B 1.7 TiB 53.72 0.72  44     up         osd.15
> >> >>>>>  -5        58.49872        -  58 TiB  45 TiB  37 TiB 7.2 GiB  99
> GiB  14 TiB 76.37 1.02   -            host s3db4
> >> >>>>>  11   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  12 TiB 897 MiB  28
> GiB 2.8 TiB 81.15 1.09 205     up         osd.11
> >> >>>>>  17   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 1.2 GiB  27
> GiB 3.6 TiB 75.38 1.01 211     up         osd.17
> >> >>>>>  18   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 965 MiB  44
> GiB 4.0 TiB 72.86 0.98 188     up         osd.18
> >> >>>>>  20   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 796 GiB 529 MiB
>  0 B 796 GiB 78.63 1.05  66     up         osd.20
> >> >>>>>  21   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.6 TiB 1.1 TiB 2.1 GiB
>  0 B 1.1 TiB 70.32 0.94  47     up         osd.21
> >> >>>>>  22   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.9 TiB 802 GiB 882 MiB
>  0 B 802 GiB 78.47 1.05  58     up         osd.22
> >> >>>>>  24   hdd   3.63689  1.00000 3.6 TiB 2.8 TiB 856 GiB 645 MiB
>  0 B 856 GiB 77.01 1.03  47     up         osd.24
> >> >>>>>  -6        58.89636        -  59 TiB  44 TiB  44 TiB 2.4 GiB 111
> GiB  15 TiB 75.22 1.01   -            host s3db5
> >> >>>>>   0   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.4 TiB 2.3 TiB  70 MiB 6.6
> GiB 1.3 TiB 65.00 0.87  48     up         osd.0
> >> >>>>>  25   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.4 TiB 2.3 TiB 5.3 MiB 6.6
> GiB 1.4 TiB 63.86 0.86  41     up         osd.25
> >> >>>>>  26   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB 2.8 TiB 181 MiB 7.6
> GiB 862 GiB 77.47 1.04  48     up         osd.26
> >> >>>>>  27   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.3 TiB 2.2 TiB 7.0 MiB 6.1
> GiB 1.5 TiB 61.00 0.82  48     up         osd.27
> >> >>>>>  28   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  12 TiB 937 MiB  30
> GiB 2.8 TiB 81.19 1.09 203     up         osd.28
> >> >>>>>  29   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 536 MiB  26
> GiB 3.8 TiB 73.95 0.99 200     up         osd.29
> >> >>>>>  30   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  11 TiB 744 MiB  28
> GiB 3.1 TiB 79.07 1.06 207     up         osd.30
> >> >>>>>  -7        58.89636        -  59 TiB  44 TiB  44 TiB  14 GiB 122
> GiB  14 TiB 75.41 1.01   -            host s3db6
> >> >>>>>  32   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.1 TiB 3.0 TiB  16 MiB 8.2
> GiB 622 GiB 83.74 1.12  65     up         osd.32
> >> >>>>>  33   hdd   3.73630  0.79999 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 2.9 TiB  14 MiB 8.1
> GiB 740 GiB 80.67 1.08  52     up         osd.33
> >> >>>>>  34   hdd   3.73630  0.79999 3.7 TiB 2.9 TiB 2.8 TiB 449 MiB 7.7
> GiB 877 GiB 77.08 1.03  52     up         osd.34
> >> >>>>>  35   hdd   3.73630  0.79999 3.7 TiB 2.3 TiB 2.2 TiB 133 MiB 7.0
> GiB 1.4 TiB 62.18 0.83  42     up         osd.35
> >> >>>>>  36   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 544 MiB  26
> GiB 4.0 TiB 72.98 0.98 220     up         osd.36
> >> >>>>>  37   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB  11 GiB  38
> GiB 3.6 TiB 75.30 1.01 200     up         osd.37
> >> >>>>>  38   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  11 TiB  11 TiB 1.2 GiB  28
> GiB 3.3 TiB 77.43 1.04 217     up         osd.38
> >> >>>>>  -8        58.89636        -  59 TiB  47 TiB  46 TiB 3.9 GiB 116
> GiB  12 TiB 78.98 1.06   -            host s3db7
> >> >>>>>  39   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.2 TiB 3.2 TiB  19 MiB 8.5
> GiB 499 GiB 86.96 1.17  43     up         osd.39
> >> >>>>>  40   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.6 TiB 2.5 TiB 144 MiB 7.0
> GiB 1.2 TiB 68.33 0.92  39     up         osd.40
> >> >>>>>  41   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 3.0 TiB 2.9 TiB 218 MiB 7.9
> GiB 732 GiB 80.86 1.08  64     up         osd.41
> >> >>>>>  42   hdd   3.73630  1.00000 3.7 TiB 2.5 TiB 2.4 TiB 594 MiB 7.0
> GiB 1.2 TiB 67.97 0.91  50     up         osd.42
> >> >>>>>  43   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  12 TiB 564 MiB  28
> GiB 2.9 TiB 80.32 1.08 213     up         osd.43
> >> >>>>>  44   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  11 TiB 1.3 GiB  28
> GiB 3.1 TiB 78.59 1.05 198     up         osd.44
> >> >>>>>  45   hdd  14.65039  1.00000  15 TiB  12 TiB  12 TiB 1.2 GiB  30
> GiB 2.8 TiB 81.05 1.09 214     up         osd.45
> >> >>>>>  -9        51.28331        -  51 TiB  41 TiB  41 TiB 4.9 GiB 108
> GiB  10 TiB 79.75 1.07   -            host s3db8
> >> >>>>>   8   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.8 TiB 5.8 TiB 472 MiB  15
> GiB 1.5 TiB 79.68 1.07  99     up         osd.8
> >> >>>>>  16   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9 TiB 5.8 TiB 785 MiB  15
> GiB 1.4 TiB 80.25 1.08  97     up         osd.16
> >> >>>>>  31   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.5 TiB 5.5 TiB 438 MiB  14
> GiB 1.8 TiB 75.36 1.01  87     up         osd.31
> >> >>>>>  52   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.7 TiB 5.7 TiB 844 MiB  15
> GiB 1.6 TiB 78.19 1.05 113     up         osd.52
> >> >>>>>  53   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.2 TiB 6.1 TiB 792 MiB  18
> GiB 1.1 TiB 84.46 1.13 109     up         osd.53
> >> >>>>>  54   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.6 TiB 959 MiB  15
> GiB 1.7 TiB 76.73 1.03 115     up         osd.54
> >> >>>>>  55   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1 TiB 6.1 TiB 699 MiB  16
> GiB 1.2 TiB 83.56 1.12 122     up         osd.55
> >> >>>>> -10        51.28331        -  51 TiB  39 TiB  39 TiB 4.7 GiB 100
> GiB  12 TiB 76.05 1.02   -            host s3db9
> >> >>>>>  56   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.2 TiB 5.2 TiB 840 MiB  13
> GiB 2.1 TiB 71.06 0.95 105     up         osd.56
> >> >>>>>  57   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.1 TiB 6.0 TiB 1.0 GiB  16
> GiB 1.2 TiB 83.17 1.12 102     up         osd.57
> >> >>>>>  58   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 6.0 TiB 5.9 TiB  43 MiB  15
> GiB 1.4 TiB 81.56 1.09 105     up         osd.58
> >> >>>>>  59   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.9 TiB 5.9 TiB 429 MiB  15
> GiB 1.4 TiB 80.64 1.08  94     up         osd.59
> >> >>>>>  60   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.4 TiB 5.3 TiB 226 MiB  14
> GiB 2.0 TiB 73.25 0.98 101     up         osd.60
> >> >>>>>  61   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 4.8 TiB 4.8 TiB 1.1 GiB  12
> GiB 2.5 TiB 65.84 0.88 103     up         osd.61
> >> >>>>>  62   hdd   7.32619  1.00000 7.3 TiB 5.6 TiB 5.6 TiB 1.0 GiB  15
> GiB 1.7 TiB 76.83 1.03 126     up         osd.62
> >> >>>>>                        TOTAL 674 TiB 501 TiB 473 TiB  96 GiB 1.2
> TiB 173 TiB 74.57
> >> >>>>> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.17/1.20  STDDEV: 10.25
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Am Sa., 13. März 2021 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Dan van der Ster <
> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> No, increasing num PGs won't help substantially.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Can you share the entire output of ceph osd df tree ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Did you already set
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>   ceph config set mgr mgr/balancer/upmap_max_deviation 1
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ??
> >> >>>>>> And I recommend debug_mgr 4/5 so you can see some basic upmap
> balancer logging.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> .. Dan
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 3:49 PM Boris Behrens <bb@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hello people,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I am still struggeling with the balancer
> >> >>>>>>> (https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@xxxxxxx/msg09124.html)
> >> >>>>>>> Now I've read some more and might think that I do not have
> enough PGs.
> >> >>>>>>> Currently I have 84OSDs and 1024PGs for the main pool (3008
> total). I
> >> >>>>>>> have the autoscaler enabled, but I doesn't tell me to increase
> the
> >> >>>>>>> PGs.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What do you think?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> --
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> >> >>>>>>> im groüen Saal.
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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