Re: Ceph SSH orchestrator?

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Am 02.07.20 um 19:57 schrieb Oliver Freyermuth:
> Dear Cephalopodians,
> 
> as we all know, ceph-deploy is on its demise since a while and essentially in "maintenance mode". 
> 
> We've been eyeing the "ssh orchestrator" which was in Nautilus as the "successor in spirit" of ceph-deploy. 
> While we have not tried it out just yet, I find this module seems to be gone without a trace in Octopus. 
> There's still an Orchestrator module, but this seems to work "only" with containers. 
> 
> Is this true, or is there still an SSH orchestrator capable of bare-metal operation in Octopus (or are there plans to have something like this)? 
> 
> While I see many advantages of containers in many areas, and certainly also for smaller setups or test setups with Ceph,
> as any technology, they come with their own problems. 
> Example issues (which all can be solved, but require extra work from the administrator) are:
> - Operation on machines without connectivity to the internet (you'd need to mirror the containers or run your own registry),
> - Ensuring automated security updates both outside the containers and inside the containers, or re-pull them regularly (and monitor that),
> - Integrate with existing logging and configuration management systems,
> - Potential hardware issues, such das InfiniBand RDMA. 
> 
> There's surely more (and there are also as many benefits), and as I said, all can be solved; the point I want to make is:
> Containers are not the best solution in all environments and also not for all admins. 
> 
> So my question is: Is there something like the SSH orchestrator still available? 
> I guess essentially the cephadm orchestrator does something similar behind the screnes, with the added bells and whistles to manage the containers. 
> Of course, a reduced feature-set would be expected (e.g. no "ceph orch upgrade"), but it would jump into the hole ceph-deploy has left.

we're renamed the SSH orchestrator into cephadm. See

https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/32193 for the
corresponding pull request.

Hope that helps,

Sebastian


> 
> Maybe this is as easy as setting a configuration knob? Or is it also possible to switch to a "bare-metal edition" of cephadm (which might rely on users
> or existing configuration management to install the packages, e.g.)? 
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Oliver
> 
> 
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