Re: Questions about using existing HW for PoC cluster

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Hi 

Am 27. Januar 2019 18:20:24 MEZ schrieb Will Dennis <wdennis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>Been reading "Learning Ceph - Second Edition"
>(https://learning.oreilly.com/library/view/learning-ceph-/9781787127913/8f98bac7-44d4-45dc-b672-447d162ea604.xhtml)
>and in Ch. 4 I read this:
>
>"We've noted that Ceph OSDs built with the new BlueStore back end do
>not require journals. One might reason that additional cost savings can
>be had by not having to deploy journal devices, and this can be quite
>true. However, BlueStore does still benefit from provisioning certain
>data components on faster storage, especially when OSDs are deployed on
>relatively slow HDDs. Today's investment in fast FileStore journal
>devices for HDD OSDs is not wasted when migrating to BlueStore. When
>repaving OSDs as BlueStore devices the former journal devices can be
>readily re purposed for BlueStore's RocksDB and WAL data. When using
>SSD-based OSDs, this BlueStore accessory data can reasonably be
>colocated with the OSD data store. For even better performance they can
>employ faster yet NVMe or other technloogies for WAL and RocksDB. This
>approach is not unknown for traditional FileStore journals as well,
>though it is not inexpensive.Ceph clusters that are fortunate to
>exploit SSDs as primary OSD dri
>ves usually do not require discrete journal devices, though use cases
>that require every last bit of performance may justify NVMe journals.
>SSD clusters with NVMe journals are as uncommon as they are expensive,
>but they are not unknown."
>
>So can I get by with using a single SATA SSD (size?) per server for
>RocksDB / WAL if I'm using Bluestore?

IIRC there is  a rule of thump where the Size of DB-partition should be 4% of the OSD Size.

I.e. 4TB OSD should have At least a DB Partition of 160GB
 
Hth
- Mehmet

>
>
>> - Is putting the journal on a partition of the SATA drives a real I/O
>killer? (this is how my Proxmox boxes are set up)
>> - If YES to the above, then is a SATA SSD acceptable for journal
>device, or should I definitely consider PCIe SSD? (I'd have to limit to
>one per server, which I know isn't optimal, but price prevents
>otherwise...)
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