Re: download.ceph.com repository changes

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On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Brent Kennedy <bkennedy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It would be nice if ceph-deploy could select the version as well as the
> release.  E.G:  --release luminous --version 12.2.7
>
> Otherwise, I deploy a newest release to a new OSD server, then have to
> upgrade the rest of the cluster ( unless the cluster is on a previous
> release at the highest level )
>
> Not sure if this adds to this particular discussion though :)

That might work for RPMs, but it doesn't work for DEB repos because
our repos don't support it
>
> -Brent
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan
> van der Ster
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:26 AM
> To: Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ceph-users <ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> ceph-maintainers@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  download.ceph.com repository changes
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:08 PM Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:59 PM Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:38 PM Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi all,
>> > >>
>> > >> After the 12.2.6 release went out, we've been thinking on better
>> > >> ways to remove a version from our repositories to prevent users
>> > >> from upgrading/installing a known bad release.
>> > >>
>> > >> The way our repos are structured today means every single version
>> > >> of the release is included in the repository. That is, for
>> > >> Luminous, every 12.x.x version of the binaries is in the same
>> > >> repo. This is true for both RPM and DEB repositories.
>> > >>
>> > >> However, the DEB repos don't allow pinning to a given version
>> > >> because our tooling (namely reprepro) doesn't construct the
>> > >> repositories in a way that this is allowed. For RPM repos this is
>> > >> fine, and version pinning works.
>> > >>
>> > >> To remove a bad version we have to proposals (and would like to
>> > >> hear ideas on other possibilities), one that would involve
>> > >> symlinks and the other one which purges the known bad version from
> our repos.
>> > >
>> > > What we did with our mirror was: `rm -f *12.2.6*; createrepo
>> > > --update .` Took a few seconds. Then disabled the mirror cron.
>> >
>> > Up until next time when we cut another release and you have to
>> > re-enable the mirror with 12.2.6 in it :(
>> >
>>
>> Right... we re-sync'd 12.2.6 along with 12.2.7 -- but people here
>> mostly grab the highest version.
>>
>> > This is also fast for RPM repos, but not quite fast for DEB repos.
>> > Finally, *if* you are doing this, the metadata changes, and the
>> > repos need to be signed again. I am curious how that --update
>> > operation didn't make installations complain
>>
>> Good question.. I don't know enough about the repo signatures to
>> comment on this.
>
> I asked our mirror man. Apparently we don't sign the repo, only the rpms. So
> not applicable in general I suppose.
>
> Another completely different (and not my) idea, how about we retag the last
> good release with z+1. In this case we had 12.2.5 as the last good, and
> 12.2.6 broken, so we add the v12.2.7 tag on v12.2.5, effectively re-pushing
> 12.2.5 to the top.
>
> -- dan
>
>> I do know that all clients who had distro-sync'd up to 12.2.6
>> successfully distro-sync'd back to 12.2.5.
>> (Our client machines yum distro-sync daily).
>>
>> -- Dan
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> > > -- Dan
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> *Symlinking*
>> > >> When releasing we would have a "previous" and "latest" symlink
>> > >> that would get updated as versions move forward. It would require
>> > >> separation of versions at the URL level (all versions would no
>> > >> longer be available in one repo).
>> > >>
>> > >> The URL structure would then look like:
>> > >>
>> > >>     debian/luminous/12.2.3/
>> > >>     debian/luminous/previous/  (points to 12.2.5)
>> > >>     debian/luminous/latest/   (points to 12.2.7)
>> > >>
>> > >> Caveats: the url structure would change from debian-luminous/ to
>> > >> prevent breakage, and the versions would be split. For RPMs it
>> > >> would mean a regression if someone is used to pinning, for
>> > >> example pinning to 12.2.2 wouldn't be possible using the same url.
>> > >>
>> > >> Pros: Faster release times, less need to move packages around,
>> > >> and easier to remove a bad version
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Single version removal*
>> > >> Our tooling would need to go and remove the known bad version
>> > >> from the repository, which would require to rebuild the
>> > >> repository again, so that the metadata is updated with the difference
> in the binaries.
>> > >>
>> > >> Caveats: time intensive process, almost like cutting a new
>> > >> release which takes about a day (and sometimes longer). Error
>> > >> prone since the process wouldn't be the same (one off, just when
>> > >> a version needs to be
>> > >> removed)
>> > >>
>> > >> Pros: all urls for download.ceph.com and its structure are kept the
> same.
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