Re: download.ceph.com repository changes

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On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:08 PM Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:59 PM Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:38 PM Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> After the 12.2.6 release went out, we've been thinking on better ways
> > >> to remove a version from our repositories to prevent users from
> > >> upgrading/installing a known bad release.
> > >>
> > >> The way our repos are structured today means every single version of
> > >> the release is included in the repository. That is, for Luminous,
> > >> every 12.x.x version of the binaries is in the same repo. This is true
> > >> for both RPM and DEB repositories.
> > >>
> > >> However, the DEB repos don't allow pinning to a given version because
> > >> our tooling (namely reprepro) doesn't construct the repositories in a
> > >> way that this is allowed. For RPM repos this is fine, and version
> > >> pinning works.
> > >>
> > >> To remove a bad version we have to proposals (and would like to hear
> > >> ideas on other possibilities), one that would involve symlinks and the
> > >> other one which purges the known bad version from our repos.
> > >
> > > What we did with our mirror was: `rm -f *12.2.6*; createrepo --update
> > > .` Took a few seconds. Then disabled the mirror cron.
> >
> > Up until next time when we cut another release and you have to
> > re-enable the mirror with 12.2.6 in it :(
> >
>
> Right... we re-sync'd 12.2.6 along with 12.2.7 -- but people here
> mostly grab the highest version.
>
> > This is also fast for RPM repos, but not quite fast for DEB repos.
> > Finally, *if* you are doing this, the metadata changes, and the repos
> > need to
> > be signed again. I am curious how that --update operation didn't make
> > installations complain
>
> Good question.. I don't know enough about the repo signatures to
> comment on this.

I asked our mirror man. Apparently we don't sign the repo, only the
rpms. So not applicable in general I suppose.

Another completely different (and not my) idea, how about we retag the
last good release with z+1. In this case we had 12.2.5 as the last
good, and 12.2.6 broken, so we add the v12.2.7 tag on v12.2.5,
effectively re-pushing 12.2.5 to the top.

-- dan

> I do know that all clients who had distro-sync'd up to 12.2.6
> successfully distro-sync'd back to 12.2.5.
> (Our client machines yum distro-sync daily).
>
> -- Dan
>
> >
> > >
> > > -- Dan
> > >
> > >>
> > >> *Symlinking*
> > >> When releasing we would have a "previous" and "latest" symlink that
> > >> would get updated as versions move forward. It would require
> > >> separation of versions at the URL level (all versions would no longer
> > >> be available in one repo).
> > >>
> > >> The URL structure would then look like:
> > >>
> > >>     debian/luminous/12.2.3/
> > >>     debian/luminous/previous/  (points to 12.2.5)
> > >>     debian/luminous/latest/   (points to 12.2.7)
> > >>
> > >> Caveats: the url structure would change from debian-luminous/ to
> > >> prevent breakage, and the versions would be split. For RPMs it would
> > >> mean a regression if someone is used to pinning, for example pinning
> > >> to 12.2.2 wouldn't be possible using the same url.
> > >>
> > >> Pros: Faster release times, less need to move packages around, and
> > >> easier to remove a bad version
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *Single version removal*
> > >> Our tooling would need to go and remove the known bad version from the
> > >> repository, which would require to rebuild the repository again, so
> > >> that the metadata is updated with the difference in the binaries.
> > >>
> > >> Caveats: time intensive process, almost like cutting a new release
> > >> which takes about a day (and sometimes longer). Error prone since the
> > >> process wouldn't be the same (one off, just when a version needs to be
> > >> removed)
> > >>
> > >> Pros: all urls for download.ceph.com and its structure are kept the same.
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