Can you paste the output of 'stat foo' and 'stat /cephfs/some_folder'? (Maybe also the same with 'stat -f'.) Thanks! sage On Fri, 25 May 2018, Ric Wheeler wrote: > That seems to be the issue - we need to understand why rename sees them as > different. > > Ric > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 9:15 AM Oliver Freyermuth < > freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Mhhhm... that's funny, I checked an mv with an strace now. I get: > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > access("/cephfs/some_folder/file", W_OK) = 0 > > rename("foo", "/cephfs/some_folder/file") = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device > > link) > > unlink("/cephfs/some_folder/file") = 0 > > lgetxattr("foo", "security.selinux", "system_u:object_r:fusefs_t:s0", 255) > > = 30 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > But I can assure it's only a single filesystem, and a single ceph-fuse > > client running. > > > > Same happens when using absolute paths. > > > > Cheers, > > Oliver > > > > Am 25.05.2018 um 15:06 schrieb Ric Wheeler: > > > We should look at what mv uses to see if it thinks the directories are > > on different file systems. > > > > > > If the fstat or whatever it looks at is confused, that might explain it. > > > > > > Ric > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 9:04 AM Oliver Freyermuth < > > freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Am 25.05.2018 um 14:57 schrieb Ric Wheeler: > > > > Is this move between directories on the same file system? > > > > > > It is, we only have a single CephFS in use. There's also only a > > single ceph-fuse client running. > > > > > > What's different, though, are different ACLs set for source and > > target directory, and owner / group, > > > but I hope that should not matter. > > > > > > All the best, > > > Oliver > > > > > > > Rename as a system call only works within a file system. > > > > > > > > The user space mv command becomes a copy when not the same file > > system. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Ric > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:51 AM John Spray <jspray@xxxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:jspray@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jspray@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto: > > jspray@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Oliver Freyermuth > > > > <freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: > > freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:freyermuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > > > > > Dear Cephalopodians, > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering why a simple "mv" is taking extraordinarily > > long on CephFS and must note that, > > > > > at least with the fuse-client (12.2.5) and when moving a > > file from one directory to another, > > > > > the file appears to be copied first (byte by byte, traffic > > going through the client?) before the initial file is deleted. > > > > > > > > > > Is this true, or am I missing something? > > > > > > > > A mv should not involve copying a file through the client -- > > it's > > > > implemented in the MDS as a rename from one location to > > another. > > > > What's the observation that's making it seem like the data is > > going > > > > through the client? > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For large files, this might be rather time consuming, > > > > > and we should certainly advise all our users to not move > > files around needlessly if this is the case. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ceph-users mailing list > > > > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ceph-users mailing list > > > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com