Re: Migrating to new pools

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Thanks!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Eugen Block <eblock@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I created a ticket for the rbd import issue:
>
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/23038
>
> Regards,
>
> Eugen
>
>
> Zitat von Jason Dillaman <jdillama@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Eugen Block <eblock@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>>> ... also forgot to mention "rbd export --export-format 2" / "rbd
>>>> import --export-format 2" that will also deeply export/import all
>>>> snapshots associated with an image and that feature is available in
>>>> the Luminous release.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks for that information, this could be very valuable for us. I'll
>>> have
>>> to test that intesively, but not before next week.
>>>
>>> But a first quick test brought up a couple of issues which I'll have to
>>> re-check before bringing them up here.
>>>
>>> One issue is worth mentioning, though: After I exported (rbd export
>>> --export-format ...) a glance image and imported it back to a different
>>> pool
>>> (rbd import --export-format ...) its snapshot was copied, but not
>>> protected.
>>> This prevented nova from cloning the base image and leaving that instance
>>> in
>>> error state. Protecting the snapshot manually and launch another instance
>>> enabled nova to clone the image successfully.
>>>
>>> Could this be worth a bug report or is it rather something I did wrong or
>>> missed?
>>
>>
>> Definitely deserves a bug tracker ticket opened. Thanks.
>>
>>> I wish you all a nice weekend!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Eugen
>>>
>>>
>>> Zitat von Jason Dillaman <jdillama@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Jason Dillaman <jdillama@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:36 AM, Jens-U. Mozdzen <jmozdzen@xxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear list, hello Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you may have seen my message on the Ceph mailing list about RDB pool
>>>>>> migration - it's a common subject that pools were created in a
>>>>>> sub-optimum
>>>>>> fashion and i. e. pgnum is (not yet) reducible, so we're looking into
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> to "clone" an RBD pool into a new pool within the same cluster
>>>>>> (including
>>>>>> snapshots).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had looked into creating a tool for this job, but soon noticed that
>>>>>> we're
>>>>>> duplicating basic functionality of rbd-mirror. So we tested the
>>>>>> following,
>>>>>> which worked out nicely:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - create a test cluster (Ceph cluster plus an Openstack cluster using
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> RBD
>>>>>> pool) and some Openstack instances
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - create a second Ceph test cluster
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - stop Openstack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - use rbd-mirror to clone the RBD pool from the first to the second
>>>>>> Ceph
>>>>>> cluster (IOW aborting rbd-mirror once the initial coping was done)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - recreate the RDB pool on the first cluster
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - use rbd-mirror to clone the mirrored pool back to the (newly
>>>>>> created)
>>>>>> pool
>>>>>> on the first cluster
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - start Openstack and work with the (recreated) pool on the first
>>>>>> cluster
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So using rbd-mirror, we could clone an RBD pool's content to a
>>>>>> differently
>>>>>> structured pool on the same cluster - by using an intermediate
>>>>>> cluster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Jason: Looking at the commit history for rbd-mirror, it seems you
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to shed some light on this: Do you see an easy way to modify
>>>>>> rbd-mirror
>>>>>> in such a fashion that instead of mirroring to a pool on a different
>>>>>> cluster
>>>>>> (having the same pool name as the original), mirroring would be to a
>>>>>> pool on
>>>>>> the *same* cluster, (obviously having a pool different name)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the "rbd cppool" perspective, a one-shot mode of operation would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> fully sufficient - but looking at the code, I have not even been able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> identify the spots where we might "cut away" the networking part, so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> rbd-mirror might do an intra-cluster job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you able to judge how much work would need to be done, in order to
>>>>>> create a one-shot, intra-cluster version of rbd-mirror? Might it even
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> something that could be a simple enhancement?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be interested in the deep-copy feature that will be included
>>>>> in the Mimic release. By running "rbd deep-copy <src-image>
>>>>> <dst-image>", it will fully copy the image, including snapshots and
>>>>> parentage, to a new image. There is also work-in-progress for online
>>>>> image migration [1] that will allow you to keep using the image while
>>>>> it's being migrated to a new destination image. Both of these are
>>>>> probably more suited to your needs than the heavy-weight RBD mirroring
>>>>> process -- especially if you are only interested in the first step
>>>>> since RBD mirroring now directly utilizes the deep-copy feature for
>>>>> the initial image sync.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... also forgot to mention "rbd export --export-format 2" / "rbd
>>>> import --export-format 2" that will also deeply export/import all
>>>> snapshots associated with an image and that feature is available in
>>>> the Luminous release.
>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for any information and / or opinion you care to share!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/15831
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eugen Block                             voice   : +49-40-559 51 75
>>> NDE Netzdesign und -entwicklung AG      fax     : +49-40-559 51 77
>>> Postfach 61 03 15
>>> D-22423 Hamburg                         e-mail  : eblock@xxxxxx
>>>
>>>         Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrates: Angelika Mozdzen
>>>           Sitz und Registergericht: Hamburg, HRB 90934
>>>                   Vorstand: Jens-U. Mozdzen
>>>                    USt-IdNr. DE 814 013 983
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jason
>
>
>
>
> --
> Eugen Block                             voice   : +49-40-559 51 75
> NDE Netzdesign und -entwicklung AG      fax     : +49-40-559 51 77
> Postfach 61 03 15
> D-22423 Hamburg                         e-mail  : eblock@xxxxxx
>
>         Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrates: Angelika Mozdzen
>           Sitz und Registergericht: Hamburg, HRB 90934
>                   Vorstand: Jens-U. Mozdzen
>                    USt-IdNr. DE 814 013 983
>



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