If you are on the current release of Ceph Hammer 0.94.10 or Jewel 10.2.7, you have it already. I don't remember which release it came out in, but it's definitely in the current releases..
On Thu, May 11, 2017, 12:24 AM Anton Dmitriev <tech@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"recent enough version of the ceph-objectstore-tool" - sounds very interesting. Would it be released in one of next Jewel minor releases?
On 10.05.2017 19:03, David Turner wrote:
PG subfolder splitting is the primary reason people are going to be deploying Luminous and Bluestore much faster than any other major release of Ceph. Bluestore removes the concept of subfolders in PGs.
I have had clusters that reached what seemed a hardcoded maximum of 12,800 objects in a subfolder. It would take an osd_heartbeat_grace of 240 or 300 to let them finish splitting their subfolders without being marked down. Recently I came across a cluster that had a setting of 240 objects per subfolder before splitting, so it was splitting all the time, and several of the OSDs took longer than 30 seconds to finish splitting into subfolders. That led to more problems as we started adding backfilling to everything and we lost a significant amount of throughput on the cluster.
I have yet to manage a cluster with a recent enough version of the ceph-objectstore-tool (hopefully I'll have one this month) that includes the ability to take an osd offline, split the subfolders, then bring it back online. If you set up a way to monitor how big your subfolders are getting, you can leave the ceph settings as high as you want, and then go in and perform maintenance on your cluster 1 failure domain at a time splitting all of the PG subfolders on the OSDs. This approach would remove this ever happening in the wild.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:37 AM Piotr Nowosielski <piotr.nowosielski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is difficult for me to clearly state why some PGs have not been migrated.
crushmap settings? Weight of OSD?
One thing is certain - you will not find any information about the split
process in the logs ...
pn
-----Original Message-----
From: Anton Dmitriev [mailto:tech@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 10:14 AM
To: Piotr Nowosielski <piotr.nowosielski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
When I created cluster, I made a mistake in configuration, and set split
parameter to 32 and merge to 40, so 32*40*16 = 20480 files per folder.
After that I changed split to 8, and increased number of pg and pgp from
2048 to 4096 for pool, where problem occurs. While it was backfilling I
observed, that placement groups were backfilling from one set of 3 OSD to
another set of 3 OSD (replicated size = 3), so I made a conclusion, that PGs
are completely recreating while increasing PG and PGP for pool and after
this process number of files per directory must be Ok. But when backfilling
finished I found many directories in this pool with ~20
000 files. Why Increasing PG num did not helped? Or maybe after this process
some files will be deleted with some delay?
I couldn`t find any information about directory split process in logs, also
with osd and filestore debug 20. What pattern and in what log I need to grep
for finding it?
On 10.05.2017 10:36, Piotr Nowosielski wrote:
> You can:
> - change these parameters and use ceph-objectstore-tool
> - add OSD host - rebuild the cluster will reduce the number of files
> in the directories
> - wait until "split" operations are over ;-)
>
> In our case, we could afford to wait until the "split" operation is
> over (we have 2 clusters in slightly different configurations storing
> the same data)
>
> hint:
> When creating a new pool, use the parameter "expected_num_objects"
> https://www.suse.com/documentation/ses-4/book_storage_admin/data/ceph_
> pools_operate.html
>
> Piotr Nowosielski
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Zespół Infrastruktury 5
> Grupa Allegro sp. z o.o.
> Tel: +48 512 08 55 92
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anton Dmitriev [mailto:tech@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: Piotr Nowosielski <piotr.nowosielski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
>
> How did you solved it? Set new split/merge thresholds, and manually
> applied it by ceph-objectstore-tool --data-path
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-${osd_num} --journal-path
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-${osd_num}/journal
> --log-file=/var/log/ceph/objectstore_tool.${osd_num}.log --op
> apply-layout-settings --pool default.rgw.buckets.data
>
> on each OSD?
>
> How I can see in logs, that split occurs?
>
> On 10.05.2017 10:13, Piotr Nowosielski wrote:
>> Hey,
>> We had similar problems. Look for information on "Filestore merge and
>> split".
>>
>> Some explain:
>> The OSD, after reaching a certain number of files in the directory
>> (it depends of 'filestore merge threshold' and 'filestore split multiple'
>> parameters) rebuilds the structure of this directory.
>> If the files arrives, the OSD creates new subdirectories and moves
>> some of the files there.
>> If the files are missing the OSD will reduce the number of
>> subdirectories.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Piotr Nowosielski
>> Senior Systems Engineer
>> Zespół Infrastruktury 5
>> Grupa Allegro sp. z o.o.
>> Tel: +48 512 08 55 92
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Anton Dmitriev
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:14 AM
>> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I increased pg_num and pgp_num for pool default.rgw.buckets.data from
>> 2048 to 4096, and it seems that situation became a bit better,
>> cluster dies after 20-30 PUTs, not after 1. Could someone please give
>> me some recommendations how to rescue the cluster?
>>
>> On 27.04.2017 09:59, Anton Dmitriev wrote:
>>> Cluster was going well for a long time, but on the previous week
>>> osds start to fail.
>>> We use cluster like image storage for Opennebula with small load and
>>> like object storage with high load.
>>> Sometimes disks of some osds utlized by 100 %, iostat shows avgqu-sz
>>> over 1000, while reading or writing a few kilobytes in a second,
>>> osds on this disks become unresponsive and cluster marks them down.
>>> We lower the load to object storage and situation became better.
>>>
>>> Yesterday situation became worse:
>>> If RGWs are disabled and there is no requests to object storage
>>> cluster performing well, but if enable RGWs and make a few PUTs or
>>> GETs all not SSD osds on all storages become in the same situation,
>>> described above.
>>> IOtop shows, that xfsaild/<disk> burns disks.
>>>
>>> trace-cmd record -e xfs\* for a 10 seconds shows 10 milion objects,
>>> as i understand it means ~360 000 objects to push per one osd for a
>>> 10 seconds
>>> $ wc -l t.t
>>> 10256873 t.t
>>>
>>> fragmentation on one of such disks is about 3%
>>>
>>> more information about cluster:
>>>
>>> https://yadi.sk/d/Y63mXQhl3HPvwt
>>>
>>> also debug logs for osd.33 while problem occurs
>>>
>>> https://yadi.sk/d/kiqsMF9L3HPvte
>>>
>>> debug_osd = 20/20
>>> debug_filestore = 20/20
>>> debug_tp = 20/20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 14.04
>>> $ uname -a
>>> Linux storage01 4.2.0-42-generic #49~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 29
>>> 20:22:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> Ceph 10.2.7
>>>
>>> 7 storages: Supermicro 28 osd 4tb 7200 JBOD + journal raid10 4 ssd
>>> intel 3510 800gb + 2 osd SSD intel 3710 400gb for rgw meta and index
>>> One of this storages differs only in number of osd, it has 26 osd on
>>> 4tb, instead of 28 on others
>>>
>>> Storages connect to each other by bonded 2x10gbit Clients connect to
>>> storages by bonded 2x1gbit
>>>
>>> in 5 storages 2 x CPU E5-2650v2 and 256 gb RAM in 2 storages 2 x
>>> CPU
>>> E5-2690v3 and 512 gb RAM
>>>
>>> 7 mons
>>> 3 rgw
>>>
>>> Help me please to rescue the cluster.
>>>
>>>
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