Re: bcache vs flashcache vs cache tiering

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> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Nick Fisk wrote:
> > Just an update. I spoke to Sage today and the general consensus is
> > that something like bcache or dmcache is probably the long term goal,
> > but work needs to be done before its ready for prime time. The current
> > tiering functionality won't be going away in the short term and not
> > until there is a solid replacement with bcache/dmcache/whatever. But
> > from the sounds of it, there won't be any core dev time allocated to it.
> 
> Quick clarification: I meant the cache tiering isn't going anywhere until there
> is another solid *rados* tiering replacement.  The rados tiering plans will
> keep metadata in the base pool but link to data in one or more other
> (presumably colder) tiers (vs a sparse cache pool in front of the base pool).
> 
> That is, you should consider rados tiering as totally orthogonal to tiering
> devices beneath a single OSD with dm-cache/bcache/flashcache.
> 
> > I'm not really too bothered what the solution ends up being, but as we
> > have discussed the flexibility to  shrink/grow the cache without
> > having to rebuild all your nodes/OSD's is a major, almost essential, benefit
> to me.
> 
> Exactly.  The new rados tiering approach would still provide this.
> 
> > I've still got some ideas which I think can improve performance of the
> > tiering functionality, but unsure as to whether I have the coding
> > skills to pull it off. This might motivate me though to try and
> > improve it in its current form.
> 
> FWIW the effectiveness of the existing rados cache tiering will also improve
> significantly with the EC overwrite support.  Whether it is removed as part of
> a new/different rados tiering function in rados is really a function of how the
> code refactor works out and how difficult it is to support vs the use cases it
> covers that the new tiering does not.

Oh ok, awesome then. Keep me in the loop, I will be there with my trusty old testing rig :-)

> 
> sage

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