Please refer to Jens's message. Regards, On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.marcus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ok, thank you. I thought I have to set ceph to a tunables profile. If I’m right, then I just have to export the current crush map, edit it and import it again, like: > > ceph osd getcrushmap -o /tmp/crush > crushtool -i /tmp/crush --set-choose-total-tries 100 -o /tmp/crush.new > ceph osd setcrushmap -i /tmp/crush.new > > Is this right or not? > > I started this cluster with these 3 nodes and each 3 osds. They are vms. I knew that this cluster would expand very big, that’s the reason for my choice for ceph. Now I can’t add more HDDs to the vm hypervisor and I want to separate the nodes physically too. I bought a new node with these 4 drives and now another node with only 2 drives. As I hear now from several people this was not a good idea. For this reason, I bought now additional HDDs for the new node, so I have two with the same amount of HDDs and size. In the next 1-2 months I will get the third physical node and then everything should be fine. But at this time I have no other option. > > May it help to solve this problem by adding the 2 new HDDs to the new ceph node? > > > >> Am 11.01.2017 um 12:00 schrieb Brad Hubbard <bhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> Your current problem has nothing to do with clients and neither does >> choose_total_tries. >> >> Try setting just this value to 100 and see if your situation improves. >> >> Ultimately you need to take a good look at your cluster configuration >> and how your crush map is configured to deal with that configuration >> but start with choose_total_tries as it has the highest probability of >> helping your situation. Your clients should not be affected. >> >> Could you explain the reasoning behind having three hosts with one ods >> each, one host with two osds and one with four? >> >> You likely need to tweak your crushmap to handle this configuration >> better or, preferably, move to a more uniform configuration. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.marcus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I have to thank you all. You give free support and this already helps me. >>> I’m not the one who knows ceph that good, but everyday it’s getting better >>> and better ;-) >>> >>> According to the article Brad posted I have to change the ceph osd crush >>> tunables. But there are two questions left as I already wrote: >>> >>> - According to >>> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#tunables there >>> are a few profiles. My needed profile would be BOBTAIL (CRUSH_TUNABLES2) >>> wich would set choose_total_tries to 50. For the beginning better than 19. >>> There I also see: "You can select a profile on a running cluster with the >>> command: ceph osd crush tunables {PROFILE}“. My question on this is: Even if >>> I run hammer, is it good and possible to set it to bobtail? >>> >>> - We can also read: >>> WHICH CLIENT VERSIONS SUPPORT CRUSH_TUNABLES2 >>> - v0.55 or later, including bobtail series (v0.56.x) >>> - Linux kernel version v3.9 or later (for the file system and RBD kernel >>> clients) >>> >>> And here my question is: If my clients use librados (version hammer), do I >>> need to have this required kernel version on the clients or the ceph nodes? >>> >>> I don’t want to have troubles at the end with my clients. Can someone answer >>> me this, before I change the settings? >>> >>> >>> Am 11.01.2017 um 06:47 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <skinjo@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> >>> Yeah, Sam is correct. I've not looked at crushmap. But I should have >>> noticed what troublesome is with looking at `ceph osd tree`. That's my >>> bad, sorry for that. >>> >>> Again please refer to: >>> >>> http://www.anchor.com.au/blog/2013/02/pulling-apart-cephs-crush-algorithm/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Samuel Just <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Shinobu isn't correct, you have 9/9 osds up and running. up does not >>> equal acting because crush is having trouble fulfilling the weights in >>> your crushmap and the acting set is being padded out with an extra osd >>> which happens to have the data to keep you up to the right number of >>> replicas. Please refer back to Brad's post. >>> -Sam >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.marcus@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ok, i understand but how can I debug why they are not running as they >>> should? For me I thought everything is fine because ceph -s said they are up >>> and running. >>> >>> I would think of a problem with the crush map. >>> >>> Am 10.01.2017 um 08:06 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <skinjo@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> e.g., >>> OSD7 / 3 / 0 are in the same acting set. They should be up, if they >>> are properly running. >>> >>> # 9.7 >>> <snip> >>> >>> "up": [ >>> 7, >>> 3 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 7, >>> 3, >>> 0 >>> ], >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> Here is an example: >>> >>> "up": [ >>> 1, >>> 0, >>> 2 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 1, >>> 0, >>> 2 >>> ], >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.marcus@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's not perfectly correct. >>> >>> OSD.0/1/2 seem to be down. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry but where do you see this? I think this indicates that they are up: >>> osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs? >>> >>> >>> Am 10.01.2017 um 07:50 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <skinjo@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.marcus@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> All osds are currently up: >>> >>> health HEALTH_WARN >>> 4 pgs stuck unclean >>> recovery 4482/58798254 objects degraded (0.008%) >>> recovery 420522/58798254 objects misplaced (0.715%) >>> noscrub,nodeep-scrub flag(s) set >>> monmap e9: 5 mons at >>> {ceph1=192.168.10.3:6789/0,ceph2=192.168.10.4:6789/0,ceph3=192.168.10.5:6789/0,ceph4=192.168.60.6:6789/0,ceph5=192.168.60.11:6789/0} >>> election epoch 478, quorum 0,1,2,3,4 >>> ceph1,ceph2,ceph3,ceph4,ceph5 >>> osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs >>> flags noscrub,nodeep-scrub >>> pgmap v9981077: 320 pgs, 3 pools, 4837 GB data, 19140 kobjects >>> 15070 GB used, 40801 GB / 55872 GB avail >>> 4482/58798254 objects degraded (0.008%) >>> 420522/58798254 objects misplaced (0.715%) >>> 316 active+clean >>> 4 active+remapped >>> client io 56601 B/s rd, 45619 B/s wr, 0 op/s >>> >>> This did not chance for two days or so. >>> >>> >>> By the way, my ceph osd df now looks like this: >>> >>> ID WEIGHT REWEIGHT SIZE USE AVAIL %USE VAR >>> 0 1.28899 1.00000 3724G 1699G 2024G 45.63 1.69 >>> 1 1.57899 1.00000 3724G 1708G 2015G 45.87 1.70 >>> 2 1.68900 1.00000 3724G 1695G 2028G 45.54 1.69 >>> 3 6.78499 1.00000 7450G 1241G 6208G 16.67 0.62 >>> 4 8.39999 1.00000 7450G 1228G 6221G 16.49 0.61 >>> 5 9.51500 1.00000 7450G 1239G 6210G 16.64 0.62 >>> 6 7.66499 1.00000 7450G 1265G 6184G 16.99 0.63 >>> 7 9.75499 1.00000 7450G 2497G 4952G 33.52 1.24 >>> 8 9.32999 1.00000 7450G 2495G 4954G 33.49 1.24 >>> TOTAL 55872G 15071G 40801G 26.97 >>> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.61/1.70 STDDEV: 13.16 >>> >>> As you can see, now osd2 also went down to 45% Use and „lost“ data. But I >>> also think this is no problem and ceph just clears everything up after >>> backfilling. >>> >>> >>> Am 10.01.2017 um 07:29 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <skinjo@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> Looking at ``ceph -s`` you originally provided, all OSDs are up. >>> >>> osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs >>> >>> >>> But looking at ``pg query``, OSD.0 / 1 are not up. Are they something >>> >>> >>> That's not perfectly correct. >>> >>> OSD.0/1/2 seem to be down. >>> >>> like related to ?: >>> >>> Ceph1, ceph2 and ceph3 are vms on one physical host >>> >>> >>> Are those OSDs running on vm instances? >>> >>> # 9.7 >>> <snip> >>> >>> "state": "active+remapped", >>> "snap_trimq": "[]", >>> "epoch": 3114, >>> "up": [ >>> 7, >>> 3 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 7, >>> 3, >>> 0 >>> ], >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> # 7.84 >>> <snip> >>> >>> "state": "active+remapped", >>> "snap_trimq": "[]", >>> "epoch": 3114, >>> "up": [ >>> 4, >>> 8 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 4, >>> 8, >>> 1 >>> ], >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> # 8.1b >>> <snip> >>> >>> "state": "active+remapped", >>> "snap_trimq": "[]", >>> "epoch": 3114, >>> "up": [ >>> 4, >>> 7 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 4, >>> 7, >>> 2 >>> ], >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> # 7.7a >>> <snip> >>> >>> "state": "active+remapped", >>> "snap_trimq": "[]", >>> "epoch": 3114, >>> "up": [ >>> 7, >>> 4 >>> ], >>> "acting": [ >>> 7, >>> 4, >>> 2 >>> ], >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Brad > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com